Absolute frustration at not being able to see my own DPS (ps4)

[Critical-Limit]

Losing a right? We have no rights

Uh no, whether it's in accordance with the terms is irrelevant. Imagine a world where higher learning is only accessible to the rich. It's against the law to enter school. But with money you can buy the judges and police to ignore you.

And the people who are rich are the smart people who enter school. There is a teacher(Parse) willing to teach kids who aren't rich. But just incase someone's report card might make them feel bad all school is banned. Doesn't "have a right". I'm not talking about rights on a peice of paper. Hopefully if there was a law that you had to be my slave, you'd say it's against human equality for that to be a thing. It's against human equality to allow one group of people access to self improvement and the other group isn't. Because of being *gasp* offended.

[Gilraen]

It's against human equality to allow one group of people access to self improvement and the other group isn't.

You're confusing a video game with basic civil liberties. A video game is, first and foremost, someone else's property. MMOs especially. All you buy, if you are buying a physical object, is the object the game is on. You can stomp on that object. You can run that object through a dish washer or clothes dryer. You can even use it in your game console to play said game! But the game itself does not belong to you. You have no right to any of that game's code. All buying the game did was give you the privilege of playing it. The reason third party software can get you banned is because it interfaces with the game in a way Square doesn't allow. Again, it's all laid out, in legally binding print, in the EULA (or TOS, same thing). Civil rights do not apply.

[UBERHAXED]

You're confusing a video game with basic civil liberties. A video game is, first and foremost, someone else's property. MMOs especially. All you buy, if you are buying a physical object, is the object the game is on. You can stomp on that object. You can run that object through a dish washer or clothes dryer. You can even use it in your game console to play said game! But the game itself does not belong to you. You have no right to any of that game's code. All buying the game did was give you the privilege of playing it. The reason third party software can get you banned is because it interfaces with the game in a way Square doesn't allow. Again, it's all laid out, in legally binding print, in the EULA (or TOS, same thing). Civil rights do not apply.

It's worth noting that your argument is based solely on interfacing with the game. If we have a dps meter which does not interact with the game whatsoever, then it cannot be considered third party for purposes of the EULA. Otherwise, SE can ban players for having arbitrary software, like Itunes or Internet Explorer, on their machines. That being said, what ever software you guys call a "parser" (largely inaccurate considering the name is based on legacy methods) can use network traffic, for example, to accomplish the same task. And practically everything from your OS to your ISP has records of your network traffic, so...

[Azazua_azura]

Go to ff11 forums, look up "gear-swap" That is the type of community you pro parser are asking for and IS whats going to happen.

All this bickering is just a rehash from ff11 and the "gear swap" mentality. I do not want DF leveling to be turned into exclusionary "top dps or gtfo" You guys keep claiming it doesn't happen, but it did in FF11 I couldn't level or do non end game content on a fresh character w/o some jack arse insulting me calling me human filth for not gear swaping.

it was a trend started in 2010-2011 where players (mainly pc due to plug ins) would create multiple gear sets for each individual attack to get the most out of it. At first it was just an endgame thing, then it trickled down to even leveling. If u was a ps2/360 player and had nmo macro room or will to get ALL the gear required, you was called a bad player, lazy, human filth. Told to quict because you wasdted everyones time.

[Critical-Limit]

Go to ff11 forums

I really doubt people called you human filth on the regular because you didnt gear swap. In FFXI as a party it was MUCH more important you knew how to react with paralyna silena, refresh wearing, stun this move, swap hate at the appropriate times with SATA, over gear swapping. I can't even recall DPS checks outside of maybe a time limit to complete dynamis. Almost everything in the game could be killed the slow and careful method. I remember people not bothering with skill chains even though it's a DPS increase.

Im now convinced that you were so closed minded to advice that you knee jerked reacted to all advice and heard "hey man you should be resting with mp rest gear" as "wow you're bad and human filth"

All these bad encounters you claim to have over and over probably explains more about how you behave more so than the people criticizing you.

You're not telling the whole story I feel

[Gardes]

You're not telling the whole story I feel

I just double checked on the dates. Abyssea was released in 2010. I came back to FFXI not long after it was released. By that point leveling has shifted to FoV/GoV spam where people would go into alliances and spam on weaker mobs for the exp reward more than the mob exp itself. Leveling at that point has become 'whatever' and you could even get people taking breaks in the middle of the leveling procession for as long as 30 mins while still leeching the exp from everybody else. And you know what? Nobody cared. If someone noticed, they'd get that afk person kicked to make room but if that person returns they can just as easily hop in on the exp wagon. This applied to gear too. It was almost fate like and nobody cared.

Going back another couple years, leveling was still fairly normal. Still exp parties of 6 fighting ITs..but never have I remembered anyone fussing about gearswap during leveling. Hell, I was running around in less than optimal gear because I couldnt be bothered farming or camping for things costing millions and nobody ever fussed about it or anyone else wearing similar gear to mine while I'm in an exp party. Most people were more concerned about getting the right bodies to fuss about what the body is even wearing unless you show up in lvl 15 dunes gear to a lvl 60 colibri party. Then we got problems.

So yeah, I'm inclined to believe that azazua is just blowing hot air to support her arguments.

[Azazua_azura]

@ crit Limit

I don't lie about my experience and i give the complete story.

I'm very much open to advice I don't give knee jerk replies, I started playing mmo @ 19 and used grown up words to express myself as best as I could.

And yes I restarted ff11 75 times all because people harrased how I played. I didn't like being a back line healer and would explain nicely I'm sorry I don't like to back line heal. I would apologise leave the group who then would shout how bad of a person I am. For having ADD (didn't know i had autism till recently) I felt i did pretty well. I made sure my gear was balanced between melee and mage to attack, nuke, heal, refresh 3-4 players (by hand no macro) Making sure refresh stayed on them while mataining my mp to not rest as much. Anjd I used human filt as a censored words what I was called as 90% of it, is against the forum rules.

When I was on WoW I tried to explain to players that I share the computer with my family and was told i wasn't allowed to download third party tools. The replies i got was being called lazy, and other stuff that I can't repeat again due to forums rules.


When I was a fresh tank on excalibar, I was insulted in roughly 4 out of 5 parties because I was new. At the time I was playing on an SDTV which made things a bit hard, but I did my best. This was either because I pulled too slow, or pulled everything. Infact On my first sastasha hm run The 2 blm harrassed me for mob marking.

In the AK run my b/f explained, the whm called me ever foul name in the book, and went as far as to say I wasted their time and should have looked up a video or guide before running AK. Due to having no pc and SDTV that wasn't a possiblity nor do I learn from that.

Try running the ps3 browser or ps3 youtube or even youtube.com on an SDTV.

Ever since my first party on ff11 i ALWAYS SAY I'm new, and ALWAYS be open for advice, simply ask "hey do you want some advice" My reply is always sure.

If someone says "pull moar noob" I wouldn't like it but try and say, no need to be a jerk.

[Brian_]

When people go to school, some will inevitably have a bad experience. Some people will get teased, some people will get bullied, sometimes things much worse will happen.

Do we ban public education and close down schools because stuff like that happens? No, we discipline the offenders, we help the victims, and we try our best to deal with the problems. Why? Because an education is important and the price of dealing with the occasional problem is a price worth paying.

Is this concept so hard to understand? Because right now, a substantial amount of people are being denied the tools they need to learn because some people are afraid of the minority that will misuse said tools.

That's not right and you know it's not right.

[Azazua_azura]

When people go to school, some will inevitably have a bad experience. Some people will get teased, some people will get bullied, sometimes things much worse will happen.

Do we ban public education and close down schools because stuff like that happens? No, we discipline the offenders, we help the victims, and we try our best to deal with the problems. Why? Because an education is important and the price of dealing with the occasional problem is a price worth paying.

Is this concept so hard to understand? Because right now, a substantial amount of people are being denied the tools they need to learn because some people are afraid of the minority that will misuse said tools.

That's not right and you know it's not right.

Ok here is what is missing,

Parser are tools that are not supported by SE and against the ToS PC players use them knowing this, Much like speakezy, or fight club rules "don't ask, don't tell" Any player admiting to parsing can be rightly reported for parsing.

PS players are not at a disadvantage as the tool is against the rules.

To use the example of bullying and learning is not really the right metephor to compare it.

You can improve with out a parser. All i am and have said.


Question why is not having a parser considered the worst thing in the world?