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    Why do people always think that people who are not pro parsers are always bad players? What the heck is this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AriaEnia View Post
    Why do people always think that people who are not pro parsers are always bad players? What the heck is this?
    Observations

    To clarify: I observe and analyze information based on my own experiences and stories from both sides of a camp. Then I look at that information from multiple perspectives and conclude what is true.
    * My autistic tendencies are to do that daily with political/religous/world problems and in this case people's performance.*
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    Quote Originally Posted by AriaEnia View Post
    Why do people always think that people who are not pro parsers are always bad players? What the heck is this?
    Majority of really good players participate in hardest content (currently Savage and Thordan), and I don't know if there are any groups doing that content where no one parses (I really would be curious to know if there are any endgame statics where no one parses). Hence most really good players are at least parsed by others in their group even if they don't personally run a parser.

    Of course you can be a good player who doesn't do any endgame content, but one might argue that to be a good player you have to at least follow a good rotation, which is again based on someone's parse.

    Knowledge is power, it's really hard to be good if you have no actual knowledge on how you're really doing.
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    Last edited by Taika; 12-02-2015 at 08:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    Majority of really good players participate in hardest content (currently Savage and Thordan), and I don't know if there are any groups doing that content where no one parses (I really would be curious to know if there are any endgame statics where no one parses). Hence most really good players are at least parsed by others in their group even if they don't personally run a parser.

    Of course you can be a good player who doesn't do any endgame content, but one might argue that to be a good player you have to at least follow a good rotation, which is again based on someone's parse.

    Knowledge is power, it's really hard to be good if you have no actual knowledge on how you're really doing.

    This is the case w/ my static and others in our FC. The only players not parsing in our groups are on PS4 and constantly ask for their numbers. Which we are happy to provide and helps them tweak rotations or min max gear but there is a ton of other valuable info they are missing out on in those parses as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AriaEnia View Post
    Why do people always think that people who are not pro parsers are always bad players? What the heck is this?
    Because nobody who knows for a fact that they do ridiculous DPS is against knowing that they in fact do ridiculous DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AriaEnia View Post
    Why do people always think that people who are not pro parsers are always bad players? What the heck is this?
    why would you not want a parser in the game if you know you aren't bad? a parser would help you to further improve in certain fights, check the difference in your performance based on different pieces of gear and also for the runs where you aren't getting everything right show you how much of an impact it is having, show you the difference between using potions and not using them, different foods and so on its full of potential to help you improve. Meanwhile the only reason some people don't want a parser is they are afraid that they might be terrible, they will disagree on that point but at the same time their deep down fear is that they will put out such terrible numbers that they will be removed from every group they join.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azazua_azura View Post
    bad argument about anxiety
    I don't care if you have anxiety problems outside of your control. Your standards would erase all competitive people vs people environments. It sounds like YOU need to avoid games that give you anxiety and fear, not make all games anxiety and fear free. People have anxiety from starcrafts fog of war. Not knowing what someone is doing can give you anxiety. But the people who love fog of war shouldn't be punished for the few people who can't handle it.

    Your argument is like someone crying that football requires you to run. Well I have a muscle deteriating disease where I lost my legs. So I demand that football have rules in place that make everyone crawl to the Inzone. A few people having no legs shouldn't make the whole world crawl/use a wheel chair. Just like people with fear and anxiety shouldn't make everyone else live in a free of criticism world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    good reply
    Just want to add that people who don't use parser that can do huge DPS numbers, more than likely followed some rotational guide, which was probably founded and deemed best rotation by a person who parses.
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    Aveira Teleri
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    I take it the question of why tanks and healers should be the only ones with responsibilities and dps players should get a free carry just for playing a dps job has still not been answered by the anti-parser crowd?
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    Odett Telos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elazu View Post
    I take it the question of why tanks and healers should be the only ones with responsibilities and dps players should get a free carry just for playing a dps job has still not been answered by the anti-parser crowd?
    Of course it hasn't. This question is always conveniently ignored. I quoted someone some pages ago saying that if DPS checks aren't being cleared, then tanks and healers should DPS harder as an alternative to DPS players being able to look at their parse numbers.
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    Last edited by Odett; 12-03-2015 at 04:08 AM.

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