A question for my fellow BLM's about Spell Speed

[MagiusNecros]

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Might have to invest into Diadem and get that Spell Speed up. Shaving off 18 points off a second is impressive. Comparing it from a 600ish value to a 900ish one.

[Waliel]

Time to grind some dinos then!

But, Cheeeeeen, dino park is boring. And I can't even hide inside some comfy tails.

[Alistaire]

Time to grind some dinos then!

I bet your Fire III speed coming off umbral ice is so fast you could probably cast it running.

Also I've heard of monks hitting 1.7s with a crazy build and GL stacks. So I don't think there's a cap.

[Maero]

tbh Spell Speed> Other stats like crit, det, and acc
Spell Speed is not fluff, lol

[JackFross]

It's fluff in the sense that, while it's better than Crit and Det for BLM, that "better" is an almost inconsequential percentage. Having not really dug too deep into BLM endgame yet, I'm sure there's breakpoints where you gain +1 F4 in your 25 or 20s Enochian that becomes a decent dps gain in the long run, for sure, but between breakpoints, extra SS is just fluff that gives you more opportunity and more breathing room on Blizz 4 casts.

Hence: Fluff. Since it's easily beaten out by boosting your INT score.


Essentially: would you rather use an i200 crit/ss piece, or an i210 crit/det piece, assuming you still reach the required ss for your current rotation with the latter? If you choose the 210 piece, you're agreeing that ss is fluff.

[Madrone]

What? Can you not fit 4 fire iv in both the 25s and 20s enochians?

I've been at 780 spell speed since just before the diadem nerf, so that had always been pretty easy to do, but even with anima weapon and 688 spell spèed, it still works. Just a lot less wiggle room now, and I'm craving a budget speed food or full time use and/or a2s pants.

[Kabooa]

What? Can you not fit 4 fire iv in both the 25s and 20s enochians?

I've been at 780 spell speed since just before the diadem nerf, so that had always been pretty easy to do, but even with anima weapon and 688 spell spèed, it still works. Just a lot less wiggle room now, and I'm craving a budget speed food or full time use and/or a2s pants.

Sohm'Al Tarts are pretty cheap, easy to HQ, and are SS/Crit food.

[MagiusNecros]

What if I chose Diadem gear that gives me Crit/SpS/Det?

Btw question. How much Spell Speed would I need to have Fire 4 achieve a cast time of 2.5 seconds? Inquiring minds want to know.

[Judge_Xero]

Yeah, SPD on BLM gives a very nice return. Especially when you consider being in Astral reduces Ice Spell cast times and Umbral reducing Fire Spell cast times.

It's basically 66 SPD is a 1% reduction in cast time/recast time, but because SPD gives exponential gains it's even better than it appears because the more SPD you get the better it becomes.

Look at Blackcat's values.

Fire 2.27 from 2.5 = 9% Reduction in Cast/Recast.

But over 60 seconds look at F1 -> 26.43 casts per minute from 24 casts per minute -> 10% increase in attacks.

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Get that value near a 2s Cast/Recast (20% Reduction in Cast/Recast or 1674 Spell Speed) and you have a 25% increase in casts with only a 20% reduction in Cast/Recast

30 Casts/min VS 24 Casts/min.

This changes with the addition of F4 as it's a 3 Second cast time, but the principle is the same over the period of the fight.

[Waliel]

Do also remember that SS has exponential gains. While a gain of X SS will always reduce your cast times by 0.1s, regardless of what you're sitting on at now, going from 2.4s to 2.3s cast is a higher DPS increase than going from 2.5s to 2.4s cast.