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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
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    Illusion: "Something that deceives by producing a false or misleading impression of reality".

    If there is a "Illusion of Choice", mean thats there no choice at all. This term "Illusion of Choice" in a MMO is given when Option A will always be better than Option B. And it is found doing math calculations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    Choice of illusion would mean you're put in a situation where the choices aren't equivalent..
    Hello? Choices have to be equivalent? e.g.: 1 INT = + 50MATK | 1 STR = + 50MATK? Because that would be bs. You want to smash your keyboard when choosing stats and want them to be useful? Of course they will not be EQUIVALENT, but with careful thinking you can always do your own useful build, with common sense of course. Seems like you didnt played RO enough to know it.

    "Stats weights" don't exist in RO. You can't find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    Even then the proper mage would be confronted with choice again: Is your build properly set up for the objectives of the party? Once again: Hobson's choice. They either reset and get something, or stick with their build and get nothing.
    Makes me think that YOU DON'T WANT TO PLAY A GAME WITH CHOICES.

    And even then what you said is a lie, I already have said 1000 times to you, but you always try to dance around it. Let's define a "Proper Mage", lets say, Warlock with Comet, there can have two, three warlocks with comet wanting to hang out with said party, with different builds, one can use Elvira Cards, the other can have more points in DEX, other in INT, they all will be useful with their own touchs to their own builds that adequates their playstyle. **AND ITS NOT A ILLUSION, BECAUSE IT CAN CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY YOUR GAMEPLAY, AND YOU ARE NOT FORCED TO HAVE THE BUILD OF WARLOCK 1 2 OR 3** unless you are in very specific WoE case, and even then its questionable. theres a lot of subtle changes in builds that players can do, and it's not a Illusion.

    It's not a illusion, there is choices, valid choices, I can stay here all day giving examples of VALID different builds for the same class, for the same X oriented build. But seems like by illusion you means that, I'll repeat, you don't want to play a game with choices. You want a homogenized game, which I already have given my opinion, you can go back and see in post #62.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    Heck, even the game itself has an illusion of choice. You want that Safety wall? Invest 12 points into perquisite abilities, even when there are better options to spend those points on. I don't have to provide you "the perfect build". As there's simply none because you'd always have to adjust it for the group's objective.
    lol? Safety Wall is a really strong spell, it makes sense to put it behind a wall of points. As an Archbishop you could choose between a level 10 SW and lvl 3 Epiclesis. Maybe level 8 SW and level 5 Epiclesis. Both could be useful. No one would exclude you of a party between one of these two choices, only if you want to be extreme and want to be a ridiculous battle priest, then they would exclude you, within reason. A reminder, none of these two subtle choices is a ILLUSION, unless, again, you don't want choices. Subtle choices like this is something that lots of FFXIV players dream of everyday.

    You can't provide a perfect build, because there is no Illusion, even for the same objective players can have different builds, even if only with subtle changes, there is no "set in stone" build. I'll ease it to you. Provide me the perfect build for a WoE Full Support Sorcerer. I gave you something VERY SPECIFIC. Please, I want to "adjust" my build.

    spoiler: you can't find it, even for something specific that you say players would "adjust".
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