healer vit points

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

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Effective in the areas they "choose" to master would be useless for a great majority of the content, resulting them being locked out or alienated from anything but their "specialisation". The more extreme example: Turn undead priest. It's useless for everything that's not undead and anything that's immune to instant death effects. Not to mention completely useless for PvP content. Considering the required stats for it and if a player would choose such a build, it would only make them useful for one purpose: undead PvE trash grinding. Of course, said player could "choose" to reset their skills and stats to fulfill other needs. But that would simply mean they're being funneled by the community (and the game) to be useful with their class for endgame content. If they "choose" to temporary go for the grind build and later reset into more useful endgame builds, it's nearly the same story.

So let's go for an even more extreme variation: Mace acolyte/priest with agi, dex and str build. Someone decided to "choose" this path/build. This was actually a thing back in the early stages of the game for the lone wolves. But would that be accepted by the community and be invited for any form of content?

[VanilleFang]

Sorry, I don't mean to hijack your back and forth, but I'd have to agree with Lyrica. Games like WoW and RO appear to give the player choices in how they want to "build" their character. The truth is that there will always be the "preferred", or most optimal, builds. If you don't use these builds then you will most likely be looked over, or replaced, by someone who does.

[Ashkendor]

I mean... you're talking about a meta where even tanks don't stack more VIT than they need. There's no reason whatsoever to stack VIT on a healer outside of PvP. It's completely detrimental to both your healing and your damage to take away from your primary stat like that. You keep coming back to the spell speed and how much that helps, but that's completely separate from the MND.

[Blessedbythesun]

If I may chime on the RO thing.... wasn't the majority of RO's population pretty lax when it came to individual builds? I mean, you could party with up to 15 other players, which would lead to party diversification. Then again, I played more of my time on private servers after leaving RO official servers before renewal. Builds don't really have a place in FFXIV. Yeah, we've been modifying our stats through crafted gear for endgame raiding but the way the FFXIV is designed, there's literally like one optimal way to play in a party setting because it really is a numbers game and the only "choice" we have is what job we bring to the table.

[Eothas]

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Yeah, I have meet with a lot of really competitive players in RO, specially in PvP and WoE, and I have never seem players trying to enforce exactly the same build for everyone, because it just not work in RO, there is alot to consider before making a decision, it's not like FFXIV where the only concern is do X dps in Y amount of time, and you can throw all skills in a calculator and do the math.

In RO there is lots of skills that someone can't put in a calculator and decide "This is the best skill and build, period".

Yeah, we've been modifying our stats through crafted gear for endgame raiding but the way the FFXIV is designed, there's literally like one optimal way to play in a party setting because it really is a numbers game and the only "choice" we have is what job we bring to the table.

Exactly. What amuse me is that some people think that every game works the same way, which is not true. What made people love RO is the customization, but seems like millions of players have been deceived by a "illusion", according to Lyrica. Thousands of players have been deceived for 11+ years, including lots of korean theorycrafters.