3.15 relic will require items that randomly drop from the following mobs:

**Whocareswhatmynameis** · 11-29-2015 09:11 AM

All the other BiS items are in diadem so might as well put relic in there too.... Dinosaur Extinction Simulator 2016!!

**ScarletDawn** · 11-29-2015 10:56 AM

Oh boy another Atma farming quest...oh wait its from mobs same thing.

**Tsukino** · 11-29-2015 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Eidolon

No one really bitched about the original relic did they? (up to i90. Maybe at worst someone was sad they had to choose because they could only get the i80 version but... that's about it.)

It's the stupid grind they put after the awesome quest for the original relics that people hated.

They did!

It was mostly 1.0 players who had them complaining about how easy the quests were in 2.0.

**Frederick22** · 11-29-2015 12:50 PM

Right now 3.0 fates are really abandoned. Be sure guys, be sure that at least our first quest is going to be a fate farming.

**Morningstar1337** · 11-29-2015 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Frederick22

Right now 3.0 fates are really abandoned. Be sure guys, be sure that at least our first quest is going to be a fate farming.

I would be a little alright with that due to a certain TT card being gated by a certain FATE in the Forelands

That said, I think the Hinterlands will be right out for similar reasons to N. Thanalan and E. La Noscea, The entirety of Coerthas too maybe

**Azazua_azura** · 11-29-2015 06:40 PM

LOL watch this joke end up being true..

honestly all the time i saw people complain about the relic quest grinds. i kept thinking "yall should look up ff11 relic quest" that was pure grind start to finish to where no one really had it till after abyssea. To see a person with relic weapons was rare.

**Daenarys_Targaryen** · 11-29-2015 07:33 PM

Exactly my thought. One of my friends probably spent the amount of time it takes to get a Zeta in FFXIV just getting the Alexandrite for one relic on FFXI. These ones are easy, wish it would be do extreme primals to get it so that it is gated behind challenging content though.

**Kit-Kat** · 11-30-2015 03:03 AM

Originally Posted by Daenarys_Targaryen

Exactly my thought. One of my friends probably spent the amount of time it takes to get a Zeta in FFXIV just getting the Alexandrite for one relic on FFXI. These ones are easy, wish it would be do extreme primals to get it so that it is gated behind challenging content though.

I wonder why people keep comparing different games. Just because another game has it worse, doesn't mean it is not bad in the other game. No one complains about difficulty though, but the grind.

**ThirdChild_ZKI** · 11-30-2015 03:40 AM

Originally Posted by Eidolon

No one really bitched about the original relic did they? (up to i90. Maybe at worst someone was sad they had to choose because they could only get the i80 version but... that's about it.)

It's the stupid grind they put after the awesome quest for the original relics that people hated.

This. Entirely.

Also, it must be said that the Nexus step (side note: I personally never made it past the books; just lost all interest, especially when I saw what entailed the Novus step) was a sly way to fix the imbalance of the original hunts. The Hunts gave you EVERYTHING (except atma); so much so that people queued for instances less and just simply focused on hunting. I mean, take the 20-40 minutes or so of a dungeon vs 20-40 minutes or so of hunting and you were definitely going to get more tomes or rewards out of that. Nexus light farming forced people back into dungeons and instances, further backed by the huge nerf to hunts. This may not be concrete truth, but it's really not hard to connect the dots and see it for what it really was.

**WingsOfAzrael** · 11-30-2015 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by Azazua_azura

LOL watch this joke end up being true..

honestly all the time i saw people complain about the relic quest grinds. i kept thinking "yall should look up ff11 relic quest" that was pure grind start to finish to where no one really had it till after abyssea. To see a person with relic weapons was rare.

if this ends up being true i just wont do it

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