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    Jimmy Whiskers
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    Wanderers Minuet suggestion

    Just a simple suggestion that will help out bards alot imo.... make all songs have no cast time while WM is active.

    Not game breaking at all, will actually make some bards play songs more often, especially things like Wardens Paean. MCH already have instant cast group TP/MP regen skills, no reason why bard cannot. They made WM cast instant and I personally think the other songs should get a similar treatment.
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    Greywolf Amakir
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    Its a bit game breaking since MCH has 10 secs CD in turrets, I mean, if you use TP turret and you wanna MP regen, you have to wait 10 secconds for turret. Casting songs is pretty anoying, but Foe's Requiem is currently a game breaking and with no cast time would be pretty OP.
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    Asny Rak'nys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post
    Its a bit game breaking since MCH has 10 secs CD in turrets, I mean, if you use TP turret and you wanna MP regen, you have to wait 10 secconds for turret. Casting songs is pretty anoying, but Foe's Requiem is currently a game breaking and with no cast time would be pretty OP.
    Hmmm 10s pre pull sing Foe until oom... after that any break sing ballad/army's, swap to Foe before being able to hit stuff again oom regen repeat ad nauseum. No cast time would make nearly no difference if done correctly. The only difference would be if things go wrong and need to sing in between breaks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruskie View Post
    Hmmm 10s pre pull sing Foe until oom... after that any break sing ballad/army's, swap to Foe before being able to hit stuff again oom regen repeat ad nauseum. No cast time would make nearly no difference if done correctly. The only difference would be if things go wrong and need to sing in between breaks.
    Buff auras linger for a few seconds before it fades. You could keep toggling it on/off for it's effects without draining your mana, unless there was a 10 second cooldown between enabling/disabling it, like there is for the tank stances, cleric stance, and WM/GB.
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    Aika Kayoi
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Buff auras linger for a few seconds before it fades. You could keep toggling it on/off for it's effects without draining your mana, unless there was a 10 second cooldown between enabling/disabling it, like there is for the tank stances, cleric stance, and WM/GB.
    They linger for a few seconds because they work in a similar way to dots and anything else that works on a static-interval tick. It will "check" if you still have the song up every x seconds, at which point it will drain your mana and give the party a TP/MP tick, so that wouldn't be possible with no CD. The only cheesy thing you could do is flip the songs off between GCDs to negate the song penalty but MCH can already do that to an extent with being able to re-place turrets and toggle their regens.

    But either way, to OP: no.
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    The only problem with the buff songs is that we don't have more of them, not the cooldown.......
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    But even if the cast times were taken off, there'd still be a GCD wait time after you've used it, since they are GCD skill, so you wouldn't be able to toggle it on/off instantly anyway. Unless you don't want to pewpewpew with your bow (would still include that 2,4 sec active time). I find it unfair that the cast times are so long, same cast time as your current GCD would be fine imo
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    (Hmm) I think the cast timers are fine for the song playing. I think it would be weird to make the other songs with a 0 cast timer. You're not playing a song at that point if its instant. I will say that Warden's Paeon needs something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephanoa View Post
    (Hmm) I think the cast timers are fine for the song playing. I think it would be weird to make the other songs with a 0 cast timer. You're not playing a song at that point if its instant. I will say that Warden's Paeon needs something.
    Idk 30% dmg is quite something if you ask me, with addition of cast times on other skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AniCelestine View Post
    Idk 30% dmg is quite something if you ask me, with addition of cast times on other skills.
    He said Warden's Paeon needs something, not Wanderers Minuet
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