Diadem and Savage - I can't deal with it anymore

[zosia]

I just want to say I love you lol. It's so true having better gear won't make you a better player, especially in raids. Either you have the skill or not.So what if someone got great gear from something you don't want to do. How does that effect you clearing your raid? You cleared something hard and have to skill to do it. Your consolation prize is dyable alex normal gear. No one can get that gear unless you beat it. You don't even need it because you already beat it with out. The only thing higher level gear affects right now is your ego. Nobody needs this gear, it just makes us feel good when we wear it lol

SN- I raiding and improving my skills but like the other posters said it's not worth it because you can't find enough people willing to do it. Hell no body even wants to do Ravana or Void Ark. Back in the day people did the old primals and towers all the time. If you can't get people to do those then it's nearly impossible to form a static for Savage. Coils were fun to learn and you felt accomplished from beating it whether you got gear or not

Fixed that for ya and it's a total crap reward for a fight that only a fraction of the 1% can do.

Everyone has the same chance to have the best gear in the game, except what was the best gear, the Gordian set, was locked behind skill (mostly) and now Diadem focuses more on the beloved RNG to distribute rewards. Still, in any of these cases, any player has and has had the same chance to get the item; just that the majority of the playerbase will never get to it through Savage because the percentage of people who bother with that content is in the single digits (A4S). So, in reality, right now, in this patch, gear is more evenly distributed among the playerbase because even those who don't have the skill required for Alexander have at least a chance at that ilvl through another mean. Quit your whining; you, the hardcore player, are nothing more than another 12.95 and have EXACTLY the same rights as any of the other accounts in this business.

I would like to point out that NO ONE, not a single player in this game NEEDS the drops from Diadem. If you are still unable to beat A4S after your group has been i200+ for idk how long you should consider raiding Void Ark instead of Gordias. Just saying.


I do agree, though, that the recycling should stop. The content tiers of instances got boring even before the expansion. I understand it saves a great deal of resources while providing somewhat new content, but there should be a limit. I'm actually expecting something like New Dungeon A + Dusk Vigil (Hard), New Dungeon B + Sohm Al (Hard), New Dungeon C + Aery (Hard), etc. Hoping I'm wrong...

It so easy to tell people who have raided a4s who have not. You're obviously not a person who has raided a4s. You speak from ignorance and you should try a4s for yourself before making crappy statements. Speaking as a person who has beaten yoshida's crazy moby dick styled whale hunt of a fight (a4s), I can tell you it is one of the worst designed fights I have ever raided in. You know how many people have cleared a4s worldwide before 3.1? Hmm? Do ya? It was around 3k, world wide.

That is less than 0.1% of the player base. So players that climb that mountain, but might be a percent or two behind the enrage deserves nothing better than mindless raiding* in void ark and alex normal? Get outta here, you make as much sense as an igloo in the desert.

I rather please players like the OP. People who actually contribute to this game's community and the out-of-game resources for other players. Let's face it, casual players are much less likely to bring the same substance to the community as a very dedicated player. It's all good though, lets keep driving any talent or quality players away from this game. This patch and the last patch have been train wrecks in the end game community, but people like you don't care about that. It's all about you and your sense of entitlement wanting everything for a fraction of the effort.

[Archaell]

Fixed that for ya and it's a total crap reward for a fight that only a fraction of the 1% can do.

I know we are saving resources with all the recycling... but this is nuts. Option to color your gear should not be considered reward - it should be normal. (Cash shop dyes in subscription based game are total facepalm - better dyes in most games drop in harder content).

The developers should seriously consider making savage gear unique... or at least create light version and full version of gear sets. Something like a robe in normal and the same robe but plated in savage. Stronger characters usually wear stronger looking gear.

[Ashkendor]

I would like to point out that NO ONE, not a single player in this game NEEDS the drops from Diadem. If you are still unable to beat A4S after your group has been i200+ for idk how long you should consider raiding Void Ark instead of Gordias. Just saying.

It's really funny to see this coming from someone that doesn't have a single solitary Savage drop on their character.

[BloodPact]

It so easy to tell people who have raided a4s who have not. You're obviously not a person who has raided a4s. You speak from ignorance and you should try a4s for yourself before making crappy statements. Speaking as a person who has beaten yoshida's crazy moby dick styled whale hunt of a fight (a4s), I can tell you it is one of the worst designed fights I have ever raided in. You know how many people have cleared a4s worldwide before 3.1? Hmm? Do ya? It was around 3k, world wide.

Not only have I not tried A4S. I haven't any of the Savage turns; because I'm not interested. How would me raiding or not be relevant to my point?

That is less than 0.1% of the player base. So players that climb that mountain, but might be a percent or two behind the enrage deserves nothing better than mindless raiding* in void ark and alex normal? Get outta here, you make as much sense as an igloo in the desert.

If at this point you are still trying to finish Savage you are not hardcore; the OP is referring to the hardcore section of the playerbase. If you are among those who push for world clears and that sort of stuff, the hardcore base, then I say it again, you should reconsider your approach to FFXIV.

I rather please players like the OP. People who actually contribute to this game's community and the out-of-game resources for other players. Let's face it, casual players are much less likely to bring the same substance to the community as a very dedicated player. It's all good though, lets keep driving any talent or quality players away from this game. This patch and the last patch have been train wrecks in the end game community, but people like you don't care about that. It's all about you and your sense of entitlement wanting everything for a fraction of the effort.

Yoshida: Yes! Let's definitely keep developing to those 0.1% of players you just mentioned and leave whatever time we can spare to the 99.9%. I'm sure the board of directors will give me a huge Christmas bonus from the killing numbers we'll make in revenue!

Grow up.

[BloodPact]

It's really funny to see this coming from someone that doesn't have a single solitary Savage drop on their character.

Not relevant. That's like saying you need to be a politician to comment on politics. What I said in your quote about not needing Diadem for Savage is a fact, not an opinion.

[Archaell]

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If I may ask, what would make you interested in the savage? Because that's the most important question. Casuals need way more motivation than hc raiders to try something hard.

Developing content for only small portion of the playerbase isn't wise... but you can develop content for the hardcore raiders and at the same time make it appealing enough for the casuals, even though it would take them longer to achieve their goals.

[RukiaFae]

Savage gear should be augmented and glow in the dark and shit.

They should give them exclusive mounts and minions.

[Ashkendor]

NYoshida: Yes! Let's definitely keep developing to those 0.1% of players you just mentioned and leave whatever time we can spare to the 99.9%. I'm sure the board of directors will give me a huge Christmas bonus from the killing numbers we'll make in revenue!

Grow up.

Er. That person stated that they thought A4S was terribly designed. How does this even make sense in that context?

Not relevant. That's like saying you need to be a politician to comment on politics. What I said in your quote about not needing Diadem for Savage is a fact, not an opinion.

Bad example. Politicians set laws for and govern everyone, including non-politicians, so being interested in politics is reasonable. Raiders and non-raiders really don't have that same interaction. A better example would be someone that only watches football telling a college quarterback that he's not good enough for the NFL so he should just hang it up and go play PeeWee football instead.

[Pence]

In this thread: People don't believe that hard yakka should wield a greater payoff, and are entitled to the best by putting in minimal effort.

Ahhhh, we certainly are a world in decline. Luckily for you lot Yoshi seems to agree.

[hagare]

Bad example. Politicians set laws and govern everyone, including non-politicians, so being interested in politics is reasonable. Raiders and non-raiders really don't have that same interaction. A better example would be someone that only watches football telling a college quarterback that he's not good enough for the NFL so he should just hang it up and go play PeeWee football instead.

Because you need to be a pro to say the truth on something?
Then I guess to you every movie is good, every food is delicious, and every athlete is good enough to make it to the pros.

He may not raid savage, but you know what he said is true about not needing diadem gear to clear savage.
Unless all those clear stats before 3.1 are fake.
Unless of course the problem you have is with a non-raider saying the truth.