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    Player
    Eudyptes's Avatar
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    Summer Lebeau
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100

    Current state of MCH?

    I took a break from combat classes and only been playing casually for the last 2-3 months, so I've fallen out of the loop as to how the classes play these days. I've really been wanting to level MCH recently though, and possibly make it my new main since I've been getting tired of my old one. Right now I'm at 40 and absolutely love the class (though I think turrets could be slightly reworked to have a mini pet bar to follow/stay/place since them being stationary seems pointless).

    Anyway, I have been plagued by some concerns that make me question if I should keep going. One is that I always hear how it and BRD change fairly dramatically in playstyle at 52+, which I think is something I'll have to experience myself. But the other is that when I was playing regularly, the general consensus was that MCH was "literally the worst job ever", and when I grouped with them I could feel that things felt slower.

    My question is, has this changed? Has there been updates to buff the class? Or have people just figured out how to play the class better? Or is it just the same as it was?
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    Blufnix Greedalox
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    MCH and BRD are pretty much in a near identical balance place, depending on comp. Mandatory in progressive content. People optimized rotations, we got some nice QOL buffs so all is good for us. If you love the job stick with it. Tiny bit of stigma out there towards us still due to our place on 3.0 launch and having the fewest players playing our class to change peoples minds.
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    Last edited by Greedalox; 11-19-2015 at 03:55 PM.

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    Aika Kayoi
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 70
    MCH is and always has been a solid job. People saw the numbers as weak before Alex came around due to A) It's new, people need time to adjust and B) The only fight you could use as a measure for DPS were not very fair. The only other option was training dummy where melee absolutely flourish and the physical ranged DPS (naturally the weakest DPS jobs) don't really "flourish" at all.
    Playing both jobs the strengths and weaknesses of one compared to the other stand out, I'd probably rather play BRD for progression but MCH is really fine.
    As for noticing slow runs with MCH? I notice slow runs all the time. People in DF are generally not very good. However MCH AoE is really good and I would welcome a decent/good MCH the same as I would a SMN in a dungeon run.
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by aabe View Post
    MCH is and always has been a solid job.
    Quit kidding yourself. 3.0 MCH was beyond underpowered.
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    ShinSenpai's Avatar
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    Shin Senpai
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    Adamantoise
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    Quit kidding yourself. 3.0 MCH was beyond underpowered.
    One word: Rapidfire

    Instant mounting, instant teleporting. Good times.
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    Ruri's Avatar
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    Ruri Valeth
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Whoever said MCH is the worst job ever just doesn't know or care to learn how to play it. It has a semi steep learning curve to play it efficiently but in my opinion it's very fun and can still output good DPS (at least more or the same as a brd)

    They have added an update to quick reload so you have much more time using bullets and not just hitting 1 over and over until something procs.
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    Character
    Quinton Lightblaze
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    MCH is balanced quite well with bard but that isn't the problem. The problem is that almost everyone hates the aesthetics of MCH.
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    Ruri Valeth
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    Balmung
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by zcrash970 View Post
    MCH is balanced quite well with bard but that isn't the problem. The problem is that almost everyone hates the aesthetics of MCH.
    Yes it is not for everyone.
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    Summer Lebeau
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    Jenova
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    Monk Lv 100
    Thanks for the answers. I will def stick with it. I'll still have to see if I like it when I get the addition of Gauss though since I enjoy the mobility. But honestly I think I'll be ok since I played BLM a lot in 2.0, and have all three healers at 60 so I'm used to stance dancing. Though being a completely mobile ranged class would have been better, but I don't think it'll be a deal breaker.

    Quote Originally Posted by zcrash970 View Post
    MCH is balanced quite well with bard but that isn't the problem. The problem is that almost everyone hates the aesthetics of MCH.
    Really? Why is that? Do you mean skill animations or the overall look of gear/guns? I'd be lying if I didn't say at least half of why I want to play it is cause of the gear options they get. Their animations aren't terribly flashy, but they aren't bad imo.
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    Larek Darkholme
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    They're in pretty high demand right now. Lacking BRD and MCH is seems.
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

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