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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Because SE would need to work on making new animations for the 'Minion' pets. Once again, Ifrit would require the most work due to his lack of appendages (he has them, but they're nubs. He has less detail than the Egi).
    I'm not asking for the Summoner glamours to look like the egi minions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Because SE would need to work on making new animations for the 'Minion' pets. Once again, Ifrit would require the most work due to his lack of appendages (he has them, but they're nubs. He has less detail than the Egi).
    First off, OP never said replace the Egi with the minions. She/He said make them as detailed as the minions, in terms of appearance. AKA, not just 1 variant of 1 color. More elaborate pets than the current ones. Right now Egi's now have 1 color template in the same color scheme, and have minimal movements as it is. I hope you're aware that the current animations, for Ifrit, outside of Crimson Cyclone is merely them moving it's arm and a large flash of light animation happens over his body. And Crimson Cyclone is merely the pet "dashing" - Aka flashing for a few moments in one direction then reappearing.

    Talk about detail, amirite? The same can be said about the other pets, their animations aren't that detailed.

    Oh and if they are going to be making glamours, they're going to have to make new animations for the pets as it is otherwise what's the point in glamouring your pet? That being said, I really hope they wouldn't have refereed to it as "glamour" if it was merely a color change of a Egi or an Egi-Reskin(cause you may as well call it dye at this point) I'd be disappointed if they didn't actually attempt to make it a real glamour aspect with animations and all. Side note; on the discussion of minions being Egi's they've already done minions that can do abilities. Look at Verminion mini-bosses. I'm pretty sure if they wanted to add "animations" they could do it pretty easily.

    Honestly, what, in your opinion, do you think glamouring a pet would entail? Just the same exact Egi with a different texture added to it?
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    Minions aren't exactly a good example to use, when you could easily say "is it possible for SE to make SMN pets as detailed as the SCH pet?" I'm well aware of Ifrits animation and the minion has a lack of arms. That was my main argument on it (and the lack of detail comment I made was that the Ifrit minion is less detailed than the Egi, something all chibis suffer).

    In my opinion, while I would have normally been fine with a SMN glamour system (letting you choose whether to have Shiva-Egi out instead of Ifrit-Egi, or even a Carbuncle), at the moment I would prefer SE to focus on making more PvE content that remains relevant from the start of its patch life to the beginning of the next (and not make it a boring mess).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephrey View Post
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    Exactly! I was thinking the same thing people are so quick to dismiss any idea that's not from the dev. I have a great idea on how to make red mage fill like a hybrid of black mage and Dragoon, but I never posted it because the community has a hard time accepting anything new.

    But back on topic it's sad that the minions look better then then actual egi's. The garuda minion actual looks like garuda now that's just sad. So yea SE please make this happen you can just reuse the current egi animation.
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    As a person who mains SMN I cannot wait for these Egi Glamours and any idea's including the OP's are more than welcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Minions aren't exactly a good example to use, when you could easily say "is it possible for SE to make SMN pets as detailed as the SCH pet?" I'm well aware of Ifrits animation and the minion has a lack of arms. That was my main argument on it (and the lack of detail comment I made was that the Ifrit minion is less detailed than the Egi, something all chibis suffer).

    In my opinion, while I would have normally been fine with a SMN glamour system (letting you choose whether to have Shiva-Egi out instead of Ifrit-Egi, or even a Carbuncle), at the moment I would prefer SE to focus on making more PvE content that remains relevant from the start of its patch life to the beginning of the next (and not make it a boring mess).
    I find this funny.
    Asking SE for a complete (new) beast tribe race is OK, but asking them to fix Summoner pets - which is already in game - is too much work for SE :/

    As long as YOU are pleased then it's ok right?
    Others cannot ask for the things THEY want, because suddenly SE would have much more work to do... (And we totally don't pay them for it, right?)

    Amazing logic there.
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    I don't agree with having detailed Smn pets. Egi's exist because you summon a sliver of power from Primals to assist you in battles. They take that incomplete form to show you that. Anything more detailed than that creates lore problems and quite possibly lag issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaperking386 View Post
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    I always hated this excuse, because it never makes sense. The sliver of power stolen from the Primals would look alot like the Primals then the Egi's we have now, if they were following the "lore." But let's face it is SE still following lore when it comes to Summoner? I remember reading some where that Summoner's can only have a max of 3 pets because too many would cause them to go crazy, but we're about to get new pets in the Form of glamours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyHop View Post
    I find this funny.
    Asking SE for a complete (new) beast tribe race is OK, but asking them to fix Summoner pets - which is already in game - is too much work for SE :/

    As long as YOU are pleased then it's ok right?
    Others cannot ask for the things THEY want, because suddenly SE would have much more work to do... (And we totally don't pay them for it, right?)

    Amazing logic there.
    Note how I said "at the moment I would prefer SE making more PvE content." This implies I'd prefer that more so than a playable beastman race (while it would be nice, considering I've only been logging in at least an hour a day or less, it would be pointless. PvE/playable content in general > new race/glamours).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaperking386 View Post
    I don't agree with having detailed Smn pets. Egi's exist because you summon a sliver of power from Primals to assist you in battles. They take that incomplete form to show you that. Anything more detailed than that creates lore problems and quite possibly lag issues.
    Like I said before, I do hope they add a "remove glamours" option on settings. The ability to toggle other players glamours on or off in your settings menu. If you had the glamours on, you can see everyone's glamoured gear/pet glamours. If you had it off, you would only see the default armor/pet glamours.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Note how I said "at the moment I would prefer SE making more PvE content." This implies I'd prefer that more so than a playable beastman race (while it would be nice, considering I've only been logging in at least an hour a day or less, it would be pointless. PvE/playable content in general > new race/glamours).
    They already said they're working on this. They already said they're going to try to add a glamour system to this. Like it or not, they're working on it. Wanting something else isn't going to change the fact they're currently looking into adding this. So, what's wrong with suggesting things for the content they are already planning on working on/or already working on?
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