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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    A Copy and Paste of what I stated in another thread:

    -We played this game for a FULL year for free
    -They were creating a Brand new game Behind the scenes ( in which cost ALOT of money)
    -Yes we know they failed at launch, can we ge toff that subject now?

    Whats more important is here and now, FFXIV was slow with the updates/changes to the game because they had a budget in which they were getting Zero income from . Now, When they are asking for a little support 12 bucks a months when YOU been playing for a year for FREE, and they ask for 8 months of money to make a game that Fits the Final Fantasy name?

    This Community is Greedy sometimes :/ SE bent backwards for US, at least lets return the favor...

    they really didnt, they just did what they had to do, releasing a 80 dollar game then closing up shop would have been way worse that anything else for thier company and brand.

    Yes they apparently have done development behind the scenese for a year

    but they are a game developer, the current norm is that a game developer do behind the scenes work for years then release the game and make money.

    They havent really done us any favors, however, i m not against them charging, i just think they as a marketing move should do this either just before or just after the jobs are released, because that is a better hook and market than within a month, the next patch is kind of bleh, its just a finishing patch mostly. achievements crafting and adjustments, thats hardly a best selling patch.

    Even if they dont do the patch, i dont think they should start charging for 2 months, i think a month is short notice, and i hope they dont start auto billing people, and rather require them to actively pay again, because im sure many people may have forgotten to properly cancel billing in the long hiatus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    A Copy and Paste of what I stated in another thread:

    -We played this game for a FULL year for free
    -They were creating a Brand new game Behind the scenes ( in which cost ALOT of money)
    -Yes we know they failed at launch, can we ge toff that subject now?

    Whats more important is here and now, FFXIV was slow with the updates/changes to the game because they had a budget in which they were getting Zero income from . Now, When they are asking for a little support 12 bucks a months when YOU been playing for a year for FREE, and they ask for 8 months of money to make a game that Fits the Final Fantasy name?

    This Community is Greedy sometimes :/ SE bent backwards for US, at least lets return the favor...
    supporting a unfinished product doesn't justify my 12$. fyi they let you play for FREE only to hear your feedback's. boy oh boy, pretty sure calling the community greedy will change my mind about paying those righteous 12$ friend truly it deserves a game developed from our pockets and not from investors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearforce View Post
    supporting a unfinished product doesn't justify my 12$. fyi they let you play for FREE only to hear your feedback's. boy oh boy, pretty sure calling the community greedy will change my mind about paying those righteous 12$ friend truly it deserves a game developed from our pockets and not from investors.
    Just stating what I see, point blank nothing more said. My Opinion on how I see whats laid out in front of me. Don't take it personal its just how I feel, just like the rest of you share your Wonderful opinions that I Respect. So I respect your opinion too.

    Thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    A Copy and Paste of what I stated in another thread:

    -We played this game for a FULL year for free
    -They were creating a Brand new game Behind the scenes ( in which cost ALOT of money)
    -Yes we know they failed at launch, can we ge toff that subject now?

    Whats more important is here and now, FFXIV was slow with the updates/changes to the game because they had a budget in which they were getting Zero income from . Now, When they are asking for a little support 12 bucks a months when YOU been playing for a year for FREE, and they ask for 8 months of money to make a game that Fits the Final Fantasy name?

    This Community is Greedy sometimes :/ SE bent backwards for US, at least lets return the favor...
    Star,

    Usually I can see eye to eye or where you come from, but I have to disagree. I have enjoyed this game. However, there are only so many repeat leves, repeat crafting leves, repeat cut and paste that I and my husband can handle playing. I don't think the community is being greedy. We as consumers were sold a particular product, said product was not complete, except for the beautiful graphics. However the rest of the product was in complete disarray.

    They did however mention they would fix the product. Granted it's taking a while, and I can handle it taking a while to make this game "release" worthy. I do disagree with being charged to play an incomplete product. There are many who spent the 50$ to buy the product and some spent 80$ to buy the CE (my husband and I bought two of the CE so we could get some of our friends to play, so 160$ was wasted). I kind of feel cheated out of my money at this point and as a consumer by a company that had my following for a while, including my support in XI for many years.

    I am not paying to play an unfinished product that still doesn't meet certian criteria with what many consumers would call industry standards such as AH, mail delivery, a user friendly party feature, and it seems that many MMO's seem to have this insta-dugeon finder...I guess that is industry standard now? (correct me if I'm wrong on that).

    And to me as a consumer those are just a few things lacking, I didn't even get onto a few other things such as hate generation (maybe we are playing incorrectly, but I find it odd that I let him go charging into battle first to build up hate but as soon as I toss one cure to my husband as a THM I grab hate like a mofo and the darn mob won't even relent to his taunt or other WS that he does) , UI lag, lag in general (and don't tell me this doesn't exist because I sit and play side by side with my husband and he has lag issues when I don't and this issue didn't even exist when he and were playing FFXI together side by side, and his rig was built to run this game beautifully!). Those are just a few of the issues we have.

    I mean, in the current state now it's just a big ol' mess. And as much as I would enjoy continuing to play while they make the proper fixes to where it is release worthy, I just can't for the life of me justify paying to play FFXIV. I think I would rather just take a break, while I still somewhat enjoy this game, and wait until it's fixed and complete and just not give them my money, cause I know they already have 160$ of my money, but not a cent more until it's completely fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    A Copy and Paste of what I stated in another thread:

    -We played this game for a FULL year for free
    -They were creating a Brand new game Behind the scenes ( in which cost ALOT of money)
    -Yes we know they failed at launch, can we ge toff that subject now?

    Whats more important is here and now, FFXIV was slow with the updates/changes to the game because they had a budget in which they were getting Zero income from . Now, When they are asking for a little support 12 bucks a months when YOU been playing for a year for FREE, and they ask for 8 months of money to make a game that Fits the Final Fantasy name?

    This Community is Greedy sometimes :/ SE bent backwards for US, at least lets return the favor...
    Disagree, this community bend over backwards to continue their support for such an abomination of a game. They didn't do ANYTHING for us, they did what they had to do to keep their pockets full of money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chain View Post
    Disagree, this community bend over backwards to continue their support for such an abomination of a game. They didn't do ANYTHING for us, they did what they had to do to keep their pockets full of money.
    F2P really gave them money... Right....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    F2P really gave them money... Right....

    I'll break it down for you. The ONLY reason they rebuilt this game is to build a cash cow. Allowing XIV to be free to play for now is only to cement this fact. This notion that 200+ men are working overtime in some cramped office in Japan to make you happy is just insanely silly.

    The community could of easily snubbed the abortion they dumped on the playerbase last year and told SE to stuff it, but alot of them didn't. The community went out of their way to continue to support amid sand blasting from every major reviewer and the majority of the gaming world.

    Edit: Removed my negative tone, just wanted to get my point across.
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    Last edited by Chain; 10-15-2011 at 06:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chain View Post
    I can see you lack basic brain power so I'll let you be for now.
    I'm just agreeing with you to get off the subject, No matter what SE does its never good enough I'll leave it at that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chain View Post
    I'll break it down for you. The ONLY reason they rebuilt this game is to build a cash cow. Allowing XIV to be free to play for now is only to cement this fact. This notion that 200+ men are working overtime in some cramped office in Japan to make you happy is just insanely silly.

    The community could of easily snubbed the abortion they dumped on the playerbase last year and told SE to stuff it, but alot of them didn't. The community went out of their way to continue to support amid sand blasting from every major reviewer and the majority of the gaming world.

    Edit: Removed my negative tone, just wanted to get my point across.
    That's Your Opinion and I respect that, But I feel that, SE for a Full year went out of their way to keep the servers open ( Which cost money, with no income) to slowly give updates to the Old Eorzea as they worked full force on a new Eorzea. To me at least they show alot of pride in their FF title name, they could easily Scraped the game and not let anyone play and just focus on Ver 2.0.

    However, they didn't do that and let us play without charge to make this game better. Yes they did this to get feedback blah blah, but somehow I believe they implemented something of there own with a little feedback twist to make the players happy.

    In anyrate, its not like they were making money of Eorzea in the first place, so why not make money for those that are willing to stay through the process and the other people can wait it out a year to try out there new game.


    PS: I am sorry about the Greedy Community party That was wrong of me.. got carried away :/

    in anyrate for those that are staying I'll see you around in there
    For those that are not staying I'll see you in a years time ( or perhaps when one of the patches meet a person standards)

    God Speed Eorzea, You will be missed Old Eorzea Ill be with you till the end Gridania!
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    Last edited by Starlord; 10-15-2011 at 07:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chain View Post
    Disagree, this community bend over backwards to continue their support for such an abomination of a game. They didn't do ANYTHING for us, they did what they had to do to keep their pockets full of money.
    None forced you to play, if you played all this time then I am sure you enjoyed it too or you simply hate yourself and are punushing yourself by playing a game that you hate so much.
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