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    Samhayne's Avatar
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    Sam Hain
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    Botanist Lv 60

    Samurai is what we need

    I moved to 14 from 11 because the advancement in 11 became crazy. I still very much miss blue mage but the one job i wish they had in 14 is samurai. Idk what they are doing or what the holdup is but it seems the more they keep putting this off the more pressure thier gonna be under to make samurai not suck in 14. No its not a tank. If you think it should be clearly you never played samurai in 11. Samurais in 11 build up power then release it in one shot. Much like the war enrage meter but it would be stronger. Also they could help to link magic users or make magic more powerfull because they helped create magic bursts in 11. Also i would like to see samurai as the first dps multi-weapon user in 14. in 11 they had halpards, katanas and bows. in the dps sense i think they did well with nin and drg in 14. they could also implement a new battle system for the dps since it is getting to the point soon that everyone will have 3 dps at ilvl 210.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    They were originally going to introduce Samurai before Dark Knight but decided to not release two Easternish job classes so close together. Even though in many games the Dark Knight was never ever a tank class since it focused on sacrificing health to do absurd amounts of damage which we do not accurately have here. Instead they gave us a Tank that is all about sustainability.

    Multi weapon users do exist in the form of Ninja's however a concern I've always had is outside of Crafters, Gatherers, and Paladins the Offhand slot is now never used by any other combat class and would do well to put something there to buff up a class's stats a bit more. And with Ninja's we can't even mix and match 1 of each of our short swords.

    I mean the magic classes could be equipping magic daggers along with their staff's but they essentially have these 2 handed staffs that characters still hold in 1 hand.
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    Aria Placida
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Samhayne View Post
    No its not a tank. If you think it should be clearly you never played samurai in 11.
    Just gonna say that's a poor argument. FFXI is not the only FF. And besides, jobs in XIV are missing a lot of traditional attacks and mechanics and such from previous incarnations. Where's Reraise on WHM? Where's PLD's Climhazard? Why does DRK have what's basically Mind Break instead of giving it to PLD where it belongs? Why can't ROG actually steal things? ARC is a dot/oGCD class instead of having Charge?

    But, yes, I would love it if they made SAM a melee magic DPS, just to mess with everyone.
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    Leon Shepherd
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post

    But, yes, I would love it if they made SAM a melee magic DPS, just to mess with everyone.
    I think it could work. Base it around focusing the spirit into weapons, armors and/or purely summoning a spiritual entity to cast effects on you (instead of you telling the summon what to do).
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    Arctura Fengari
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I want to see two types of samurai, one DPS, and one tank.
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    Zell Dinch't
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    Tom Cruise will be the jobmaster
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    Aria Placida
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Leogun View Post
    I think it could work. Base it around focusing the spirit into weapons, armors and/or purely summoning a spiritual entity to cast effects on you (instead of you telling the summon what to do).
    Yep, was basing my description on FFT, which is also what you described.
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    Martin Arcainess
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    Quite alot of your post is very assumption based on what you think. This is another MMO all together not XI-2.
    [QUOTE=Samhayne;3448945] Idk what they are doing or what the holdup is but it seems the more they keep putting this off the more pressure thier gonna be under to make samurai not suck in /QUOTE]

    The Hold is up is the next expatiation. If they give us all the jobs now what else do we have to look forward to?
    And who knows they could be working on SAM now but when it's ready and when it's due to be released is up to SE.

    Also about the role, we don't choose what role the SAM will be but SE will. SAM could fit in as a DPS or a Tank either way. I wish people stop thinking XI is the base ground for all jobs and think once they locked into that role they can't change it..
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Just gonna say that's a poor argument...
    While it's FF in name, a lot of has to be made in a working context in the realm of an MMO and give the job it's own identity; they'd have to work against the grain a little bit to break from how FF skills traditonally have worked, BLM is a well-executed example imo.

    As for samurai, I think it could be a toggle-able stationary melee DPS that uses oGCD skills for movement (side stepping to flank/rears, or backwards), or a completely different resource (the game desperately needs to break away from TP being the only resource for physical dps, if MCH is any indicator), either using mana (similiiar but not a carbon copy of DRK) or a stacking spirit buff of sorts.
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Actually was it not before DK they were to introduce Samurai, but because Ninja was around decided not to?
    In any event i honestly could care less to have Samurai, but please bring Dancer
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