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    Player ErikMynhier's Avatar
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    Erik Mynhier
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    An idea to get more people to pvp

    Not sure how well this will be taken. TBH I've not even really considered all the balance issues so I'm sure things would have to be swapped around (like pve actions that have different or reduced effects in pvp), but I think the best way to get more into pvp is to make the skills themselves the prizes, that is let them be usable in pve.

    As a tank I would pvp like crazy to have Purify. And I don't think it would be to crazy, after all ranking to 50 you cant have all the skills and we all have multiple jobs. My WHM would love Mana Draw and Aetheric Burst.

    Like I said this is just the opinion of a very passive pvp player. Just throwing that out there. As a passive pvp player I would become far more active to get these very useful skills and I think others would do the same.
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    Are you talking to use this skills outside PVP? that would create a huge barrier between non-pvp and pvp people.
    The difference would be quite big considering alot if not most skills are off GCD.
    Even if you keep it inside PVP, this is not gonna draw more people into PVP because it only affects PVP.

    They should add more stuff like, Mounts,minions,housing,glamour,emotes and lots more.
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    Player Beckett's Avatar
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    Beckard Arseneau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzace View Post
    Are you talking to use this skills outside PVP? that would create a huge barrier between non-pvp and pvp people.
    The difference would be quite big considering alot if not most skills are off GCD.
    It would be incredibly poorly received, but you can't deny it would get more people to PVP :P
    That or it would make a ton of people quit the game.
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Would be fun if playing old pve content unsynced would allow you to use all your pvp skills there, since you are already destroying the balance enough anyway
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    At one point, the PvP skills were rewards--for PvP only. But then they became a barrier to entry and SE gave them to everyone.

    In PvE? It's a neat idea in concept but I feel it would work out the same--it would become a barrier to entry.
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    skill no but more mounts etc to the extreme prices of gold saucers fenrir... somethin you cant farm in a week but take atleast 1-2 months for hardcore longer for the casuals
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    A noble sentiment for a worthy cause. I feel that the skills meant to balance PVP, though, will not translate well to PVE.

    SE has taken a carrot approach to PVP, or at least frontline, with a glamor set and a couple mounts. I think a lot of players will see PVP to PVE skills as a stick, and I worry that their resentment will only hurt PVP. I've already seen some drawbacks to the daily PVP roulette where players openly announce, "I'm only here for the tomes." Based on how they play, I'm inclined to believe them, and I don't care for their company. If they don't want to be in PVP, I don't want them there either.

    I think PVP is fun and would like the entry time to be counted in minutes rather than hours. For all my criticisms, however, I don't see an easy path to bring in more people who will actually enjoy PVP.
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    Our memory of their faces is fuzzy, like an unidentifiable wad of fibers. -Anonymous Epitaph to the Warriors of Lint

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warr_of_Lint View Post
    SE has taken a carrot approach to PVP, or at least frontline, with a glamor set and a couple mounts.
    I think PVP is fun and would like the entry time to be counted in minutes rather than hours. For all my criticisms, however, I don't see an easy path to bring in more people who will actually enjoy PVP.

    they made mounts to easy to farm for people then no reason to go back.. once the hardcores get what they needed they dont go back.. i remember was 10min wait for sealrock no on average its 50-80mins for a loss hate the 24 player frontlines its boring miss the 72 player so much
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    Ulath Skullsplitter
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    All SE has to do to get people into PVP is add the hunt seals as a reward from pvp. This would give an alternative way to grind them without dealing with the hunt zerg. If pvp was a viable way to get hunt seals pvp would be a lot more popular.
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    Bravo Whiskey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulathskullsplitter View Post
    All SE has to do to get people into PVP is add the hunt seals as a reward from pvp. This would give an alternative way to grind them without dealing with the hunt zerg. If pvp was a viable way to get hunt seals pvp would be a lot more popular.
    That's going down well with lore. The Centurio Clan wants you to hunt down Adder/Flame/Maelstrom members....ohhhhh boy, wars a comin!
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