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    Player
    VirusChris's Avatar
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    Chris Corona
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    Malboro
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    Ninja Lv 90
    I have fought AST in Seal Rocks and they so do need a bloody nerf... I hate hitting with "0" damage on them when they have that shield up. And some videos to show how "awesome" they are at surviving, tanking, distraction, and using the terrain to their advantage to make them nearly unbeatable:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdgdMFw6Hpk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SQKyksNipk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uagwim949jA

    Ignoring the first video's... choice of music... you see so many guys targeting a single AST and they do not go down. True the AST did go down in the end, but a single AST can seriously screw up other teams if they use their healing abilities and terrain to their advantage, no other class can do this.

    Tell me how this is not broken or overpowered in the slightest? Should a single class REALLY be able to tank some many attacks like that? Though this player did have very good teamwork and communication skills here, but damn.
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    Player Houston009's Avatar
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    Straigus Rheyist
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    Jenova
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    Pugilist Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by VirusChris View Post
    Comedy
    The players in those videos almost had me on the floor laughing.

    What does Warrior do soon as he comes in contact with AST? Brutal Swing (Stun) GG.
    Oh AST is sleep, DRG has time to catch up to AST! Nah, he is going to break the sleep with Piercing Talon GG.
    AST is running (no sprint), multiple weapon throws (now resist heavy). Then the AST sprints and proceeds to kite GG.
    Many players chasing the AST. WHM hero comes to save the day with bind resisted knock back GG.
    That Fester with just Bio on the AST was pretty funny aswell.

    Those are only some of the hilarious actions of players in those videos of yours, not to mention in some instances there was a WHM healing the AST aswell. Also, the footage cuts out a lot, it seems to only do it when its obvious he is going to die...

    AST is strong, but please pin them against actual skilled players, and if its the same result then scream heavy nerfs!
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    Last edited by Houston009; 11-26-2015 at 05:04 PM.

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    Oneiroi's Avatar
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    Cura Curaja
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    Bard Lv 60
    I have no problem taking out a AST,especially if they're distracted.
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    Selli Noblesse
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    ASTs are far from unkillable, I watch them die just as frequently in 24-man as they do in 72-man. Maybe y'all need to recheck your burst rotations.
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Selli View Post
    ASTs are far from unkillable, I watch them die just as frequently in 24-man as they do in 72-man. Maybe y'all need to recheck your burst rotations.
    Exactly, just like I said on page 1, I've personally burst a Ast down solo on my MCH by timing my stun, knockback, and Silence shots properly in my rotation(they're all OGCD). People just need better strats then "Enemy Sighted! I'll Spam my range attack till I close in and use my PvE opener to take them out!" smh
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    Lavitz Orlandeau
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    Mateus
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    Exactly, just like I said on page 1, I've personally burst a Ast down solo on my MCH by timing my stun, knockback, and Silence shots properly in my rotation(they're all OGCD). People just need better strats then "Enemy Sighted! I'll Spam my range attack till I close in and use my PvE opener to take them out!" smh
    Yay for ranged characters then. Any tips for melees besides busting out an LB? Cause the more I play in PvP the more I feel gimmped for picking melee DPS, but that's a whole other topic.

    And maybe give someone a MIND debuff like we have some INT ones.
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    Dark Falz
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    Omega
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MerlinCross View Post
    Yay for ranged characters then. Any tips for melees besides busting out an LB? Cause the more I play in PvP the more I feel gimmped for picking melee DPS, but that's a whole other topic.

    And maybe give someone a MIND debuff like we have some INT ones.
    If you've 1v1ing AST randomly outside of heated battles, you'll have no chance (unless you're WAR and you get really lucky with a crit Fell Cleaved beserk with Full Swing up) so don't even bother wasting your cooldowns but when both alliances are fighting, it's very easy for an AST to let their guard down, maybe it's them looking at their party list because someone is dying or they gave an instant heal to another team member. Use marks accordingly, I hardly see anyone use marks to focus down targets but once you mark someone, more likely than not, people will focus and that person will be killed.
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    Player Iagainsti's Avatar
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxczx View Post
    If you've 1v1ing AST randomly outside of heated battles, you'll have no chance (unless you're WAR and you get really lucky with a crit Fell Cleaved beserk with Full Swing up) so don't even bother wasting your cooldowns but when both alliances are fighting, it's very easy for an AST to let their guard down, maybe it's them looking at their party list because someone is dying or they gave an instant heal to another team member. Use marks accordingly, I hardly see anyone use marks to focus down targets but once you mark someone, more likely than not, people will focus and that person will be killed.
    This^^ from my experience, the only time 1vs1 is really optimal is dps vs dps, especially a melee on a caster, or a caster with some range on a melee, this is a party based mode and you should be working with your team. Outside of this, learn your "Burst" rotation, the time it takes to complete, and how long before all your CDs are up again so you know off hand how often you have the opportunity and when to use it( Dummy's come in handy here to help you do it instinctively instead of reactively) learn what your CC abilities can affect and their icons, and have an understanding of what other classes CC icons look like( so youre not building resists/ wasting CDs on nothing) practice makes perfect; if you only pvp on one class by the time you hit rank 25-30 you should have a good grasp as to what youre capable of.
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    Aiden_Volkov's Avatar
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    Rhyo Bjorn
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    Zodiark
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Zeonx you need a Warrior! in your team i kill strologians solo, but you must to be fast, with double fell clave with berseker and inner beast, jeweling as give det +critical hit rate and use stune and some pvp skills (damage over time, etc) and in less of a second you given 10/15k even 20 like me one time, when you can hit 7k or 8k of one hit and doing a double hit with it, and take care to hit exactly when astro don't expected (like followin a dps with low life and surpriseeeeee turn to him and kill!) no one of them can resist the instantly enormous quantity of damage deal (greater than melee lb)
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    Last edited by Aiden_Volkov; 11-28-2015 at 11:56 AM.
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    NessaWyvern's Avatar
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    Nessa Goddessly
    World
    Ravana
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    Conjurer Lv 96
    I dunno, I find I live far more as a sch, than when I play ast in pvp. Them lustrates. (But maybe that's because I have more experience as sch).
    I have found that an astro and a sch healer healing together is pretty OP though. The astro has the fast single target shields, and the sch has the fast aoe shields. (Honestly, the astro aoe shield is so slooooooow, unless you use the speed buff ability, but when that's on CD, you are pretty much screwed)
    I also tend to do more overall healing than the astros too. *shrugs*
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 01-03-2016 at 01:02 AM.

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