immortal flames unplayable

[Februs]

I've given up trying to find reasons for it. It's pretty much universally agreed now though that the Adders are just there to piss in everybody's cereal.

I know exactly what you mean. There are days when every match feels like it's Flames vs. Mael... and then there are those yellow guys who aren't really part of the match except to get in the way. It gets a little frustrating, because sometimes you want to just have a really good competitive match, but then there's that 3rd GC that goes out of their way to make sure it doesn't happen.

I also know what you mean about the Slaughter days. Secure was fine. I actually had a pretty solid win rate in there, but Slaughter killed it. The only reason my "career' with the Flames is even as low as 35 ish% is because of Slaughter. Before that I was above 40%. Clawing my percentage back up has been a a challenge.

[TheWaywardWind]

Dreading the day the Flames become bad again, although from my past experience, I've rarely seen anyone voluntarily switch to Flames. That might change because it feels like we're slowly becoming the dominant GC on the server, but who knows.

[Eisengrim]

I have noticed that the Adders and Mael seem to focus on us Flames a lot. For no good reason. Also, OP, I think I was in a match with you earlier today! We crushed both of them lol

[TheWaywardWind]

You're saying the Flames suck, yet you have a near-average win ratio with them? I don't think you know what the word "suck" means.

An average win ratio is 33.3%, meaning you first, second, and third place wins should all be split about evenly. If your win average is at 30%, that tells me that your performance and win rate is only slightly below average. I would hardly call that "sucking."

I play all times throughout the day. Either way, we must play at different times, because my weekly win rate is at like 60%+.

[Kurogaea]

You're saying the Flames suck, yet you have a near-average win ratio with them? I don't think you know what the word "suck" means.

An average win ratio is 33.3%, meaning you first, second, and third place wins should all be split about evenly. If your win average is at 30%, that tells me that your performance and win rate is only slightly below average. I would hardly call that "sucking."

I play all times throughout the day. Either way, we must play at different times, because my weekly win rate is at like 60%+.

The near average mostly deviated from Borderlands matches, not Sieze. In fact I enjoyed Borderlands alot more as it was simplified fun and didn't require too much coordination from large groups. Sieze on the otherhand, yeah. I also play often since my schedule is veeeeerry flexible, so I can play till morning to around midnight, mostly getting my ranks up but also checking for fluctuations in wins and losses around certain times. I thought it was night time at first which was the Flame's glory hour but I lost a lot then, though apparently that has changed this time around. I'll just have to see now. :/

[Februs]

I thought it was night time at first which was the Flame's glory hour but I lost a lot then, though apparently that has changed this time around. I'll just have to see now. :/

I do find that time of day makes a difference (both for ques and for victory rate). My schedule is fairly strict, so I only play at night. It's gone in cycles, but for the most part my evening matches have gone substantially better than my day matches. Keep in mind though, that my "evening" is most likely the very early morning for you (like, anywhere between 1am - 3am). Different time bracket means a different pool of players. I typically see a lot of the same faces day to day (even though I'm never in a pre-made), and that tends to maintain a certain status quo. I can more or less expect matches to go a certain way. However, when I do get an entire team of people who are unfamiliar, things get shaken up quite a bit. Maybe the same kind of thing accounts for your discrepancy.

[TheWaywardWind]

I think most people will agree that Secure was far more enjoyable than Seize or Slaughter, but even so, we can't generalize the GC based off one battle mode and a few battles. Even if most of those are from Secure, you still performed well. There's nothing indicating to me here that the Flames are terrible, just that you get unlucky with when you play.

I could post my win rate for the week but it'd be redundant. Even still, it just goes to show the dynamic of PvP and how people can experience things differently.

As much as we shit all over Adders in this thread (because for the most part the mass majority of them are terrible), I'm sure there are a few Adders who come out with decent win ratios. I just never see them.

[Recaldy]

Pretty much this but Adders on Primal. We have our nice hard fought wins when people listen. Premades also carry randomly but nothing big lately unfortunately. SE should remove the Eso from the fights so the bad teams will lose their bad players.