immortal flames unplayable

[Carstien]

Why has nobody pointed out that 4 of the 7 initial shots he took were flame wins?

If that's a 95% loss rate then I must be terrible at math.

[Synestra]

The second place team teaming up with the first place team to farm the last place team? That makes no sense for the second place team.

Yeah it makes no sense but thats the way adders usually roll, adders being weakest GC most of the time means that they will "farm" 2nd weakes with help of stronger GC. I know this sounds kinda sad but it is what it is atm, only time you can get actually a good match is either latenight or when there is adder pre-made going on. And because of this i kinda stopped caring about winning, if i get in good group i will play properly, if not then i will just do some random duels and derp around like rest of the team.

[Chaelyn]

Not sure if you're trolling about Flames losing all the time. Every game I've played, like Knives said, where Maelstrom didn't win, Flames won. I'm in almost all of those games with Knives. This past week was my worst week ever with Mael. It was the first week I had less than a 50% win rate. I have a friend on Flames that's been doing perfectly fine so Idk what the issue is.

The past couple of games I've played with Maelstrom we've been constantly getting double teamed and Adders defend a B rank when they have 2 B's and an A just so we don't get a damn node. It's really aggravating. All this minus the fact that a bunch of Maelstrom players have insane tunnel vision and like to farm 3rd place team for whatever reason just so they can show off their damage or whatever.

[TheWaywardWind]

Honestly, if we really want to discuss any GC being "unplayable" right now on Primal, it's the Adders, and I would credit this with their awful strategies and not Mael and Flames double teaming them.

They've fallen from grace in Slaughter really hard and now I barely ever see them win. Mael wins about 40% of the time, Flames 40%, and Adders it seems like scoop up the other 20%.

[Chaelyn]

In my games (From a Maels' perspective), Adders seem to like to make sure 1 team never wins. They have no strategy and they will tunnel on one team and they seem to hate Maels for some reason cause they always defend on us even if we're in 3rd. What happens to Adders is that they will tunnel on one team and push them back to spawn and never concentrate on nodes letting the 3rd team pretty much take free reign over the incoming nodes. What happens as a cause of this is that the GC that the Adders decide to fuck over holds grudges against Adders (Like anyone would) and therefore, do the same to Adders, causing them to never win because all Adders wanted to do was for farm kills for points.

Adders also like to attack whatever node is closer. Example: 4 nodes spawn, Maels have 1 Flames have 3, but oh look, the node that Maels has is closer to Adder spawn so let's just let Flames pick their nose at all 3 nodes while we contest Maelstrom over their only node instead of sandwiching Flames.

[TheWaywardWind]

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This happens VERY often with the Flames and Adders as well. Had several games yesterday where we could have won had the Adders actually got their shit together and teamed Mael with us since they were leading with two As that weren't easy to defend. Instead, they charged after us since we were closer to them, despite the fact we were in second and doing so would only guarantee a Mael victory.

I really want to know what happened, honestly. The Adders were good and now they're total shitbabies. For a while it was the Flames who couldn't get their act together. Now I watch as the Adders struggle to figure out what to do with themselves. I can trust Mael not to make pants-on-head stupid decisions, but with the Adders I always prepare for the worst.

[Februs]

Why has nobody pointed out that 4 of the 7 initial shots he took were flame wins?

If that's a 95% loss rate then I must be terrible at math.

Not gonna lie, I was giving the OP the benefit of the doubt and didn't actually look past the first 2 or 3 screenshots.... Now I'm starting to wonder if this is just another "troll the Flames" hate thread. Wouldn't be the first one.

[Chaelyn]

This happens VERY often with the Flames and Adders as well. Had several games yesterday where we could have won had the Adders actually got their shit together and teamed Mael with us since they were leading with two As that weren't easy to defend. Instead, they charged after us since we were closer to them, despite the fact we were in second and doing so would only guarantee a Mael victory.

I really want to know what happened, honestly. The Adders were good and now they're total shitbabies. For a while it was the Flames who couldn't get their act together. Now I watch as the Adders struggle to figure out what to do with themselves. I can trust Mael not to make pants-on-head stupid decisions, but with the Adders I always prepare for the worst.

I feel like all the goods went to Flames and most of the bads are in Adders now. Maelstrom has not been doing very well in Primal and it kinda upsets me.

[Februs]

For a while it was the Flames who couldn't get their act together. Now I watch as the Adders struggle to figure out what to do with themselves. I can trust Mael not to make pants-on-head stupid decisions, but with the Adders I always prepare for the worst.

I've seen Mael make some pretty pants on head stupid decisions as well, but I get where you're coming from. I think part of the problem is that there's just too much bad blood between Flames and Adders as well. Because of the sheer stupidity of tunnel focusing each other ALL THE TIME, neither GC trusts the other anymore. When I fight against Mael, I can trust them to back the hell off if it's in their best interests. I can't say the same for Adders. I don't know who started it, and I don't care, but it's gotten to the point where we spend the entire match looking out for them and then grudge cycling when they inevitably do something stupid.

[TheWaywardWind]

I feel like all the goods went to Flames and most of the bads are in Adders now. Maelstrom has not been doing very well in Primal and it kinda upsets me.

Well, their nickname is Twin Badders for a reason!

I've seen Mael do well. Flames have been rocking it lately, though - my win rate has increased dramatically. These past few weeks have been amazing.