@SE: When are you reviving Secure 72 man secure?

[TheWaywardWind]

Exactly, you need a whooping number of 30+ players to queue at the relative same time. omg O_o !! Does that not show the general lack of interest in PvP in this game? I know of all the restrictions on wolves den...

I feel like it's also in part that Frontlines are generally more accessible to the casual PvPer than the intensity of WD.

WD has specific set-ups and strategies that make it more for hardcore PvPers whereas Frontlines is a lot more casual because it involves so many people, and singular actions do not mean as much in the grand scheme of things, which takes a lot of the pressure off.

But in a 4v4 match? Yeah, a lot of people probably get dissuaded from trying it out.

[Synestra]

Best PVP mode:

WD > Slaughter > Secure > Capture the Flag

Oh dear god! Slaughter is worst PvP mode ever made and lvl60 WD would be so unbalanced due burst some jobs got in HW that it just makes it mini-slaughter instead competitive mode. Seize and Secure are only modes atm that involves some kind of player skill when it comes to PvP in FF, and that comes from objective play combined with proper PK:ing only downside in seize is that one player alone cant really carry a whole alliance but in secure it was possible.

[Guesswhat]

Oh dear god! Slaughter is worst PvP mode ever...

I actually find slaughter fun. It's an unbalanced meteor-spam fest, sure, but sometimes chaos is fun. To be honest though, 72 slaughter is the worst mode. However, 24 is ok imo. I actually prefer 24 slaughter over 24 seize in many cases; it depends on the team.

72 Secure still the best. Seize is close but is often ruined by yolo/noobs/dgaf players, which I find more detrimental to the rng factor.

[Sanghelios]

Exactly, you need a whooping number of 30+ players to queue at the relative same time. omg O_o !! Does that not show the general lack of interest in PvP in this game? I know of all the restrictions on wolves den...

You cant say there is a lack of interest in pvp actually only because nobody is doing Wolfs Den. People arent playing Wolfs Den because lack of interest, they are not playing it because they hitting to many walls (Set Classes, Language options, Rank restrictions, Plenty different Wolfs Den game modes, afk withdraws) in order to get in at all. I know plenty of people wich would like to play Wolfs Den, but because of those walls they can expect queues around 1-2 hours or even longer and they dont want to waste that much time only for a fight wich doesnt last longer than a few minutes. Interest is there, but Square needs to flatten their walls to let people in.