Workshops - getting 4 people in there to progress a tier is getting tedious

[Jennika]

In fact I approve of requiring 4 people, as it promotes (forces?) other FC members to participate in the content and means that people are working together, rather than the "airship guy" building them on his own.

It only forces 3 other people to be on a crafting job, in your party, and in the workshop with you. They should add some real FC content to promote more people being involved.

[Lambdafish]

It only forces 3 other people to be on a crafting job, in your party, and in the workshop with you. They should add some real FC content to promote more people being involved.

That was my point. In a larger FC, the trend would be to get FC members to come to the workshop, it doesn't 'have to be' FC members, but that would be the most likely choice for an FC that can accomodate, and thus gets the rest of the FC involved with the activity. I think the problem is that SE is damned if they do, damned if they don't with this one, as if they take away the 4 person requirement, suddenly people scream that there is no content for FCs to work together on (I know this isn't real multiplayer content, but taking it away gives us even less) because one person can do it all on their own.

[Estellios]

That was my point. In a larger FC, the trend would be to get FC members to come to the workshop, it doesn't 'have to be' FC members, but that would be the most likely choice for an FC that can accomodate, and thus gets the rest of the FC involved with the activity. I think the problem is that SE is damned if they do, damned if they don't with this one, as if they take away the 4 person requirement, suddenly people scream that there is no content for FCs to work together on (I know this isn't real multiplayer content, but taking it away gives us even less) because one person can do it all on their own.

One person can already do it all on their own though, unless people standing on a level 1 crafting job in the workshop counts as "doing something". I'd like to meet someone that feels teamwork and camaraderie doing that.

They can at the very least just combine all the steps of every recipe so you only have to have a group in there once. The recipe would be way less cumbersome for people to look at and see what is needed and progress doesn't get halted midway if you don't have enough people on. If navigating the menu and turning in items wasn't such a pain in the ass I'm sure we'd have a lot less instances of FCs having 1 person doing all the crafting for the workshop.

[Solarra]

One person can already do it all on their own though, unless people standing on a level 1 crafting job in the workshop counts as "doing something". I'd like to meet someone that feels teamwork and camaraderie doing that.

This is my main problem with needing a group, three out of the four people have absolutely nothing to do. Every time I've had a new FC member in they've been disappointed,
'That's it? I don't have to do anything?'
It is not fun or engaging, it's simply a solo player activity that requires spectators.

I do feel this should be looked at again, because it's clearly causing issues for smaller FCs.

[Alistaire]

That was my point. In a larger FC, the trend would be to get FC members to come to the workshop, it doesn't 'have to be' FC members, but that would be the most likely choice for an FC that can accomodate, and thus gets the rest of the FC involved with the activity. I think the problem is that SE is damned if they do, damned if they don't with this one, as if they take away the 4 person requirement, suddenly people scream that there is no content for FCs to work together on (I know this isn't real multiplayer content, but taking it away gives us even less) because one person can do it all on their own.

I guarantee you nobody in the current situation is calling this "good FC content". One person already does do it all on their own, the other 3 people do nothing but stand there.