Please remove gathering from easy and Normal Diadem

[MikotoMina]

While I agree a lot with what's being talked about here, I think perhaps the best fix for everyone.. would be to have seperate instances of the diadem via duty finder.

Q in as a gatherer, or q in as a battle class. Only allow members to switch their gathering class, take out monsters, take out the attunements and let everyone do their own thing.

Would take out all the issues, and give everyone what they want without the time alloted to wait for people to /maybe/ join your pf so you can q.

[Asmodai]

The biggest problem with gatherers is the fact that 2 of them leave and you start having dps check issues where you cant even get credit for star ranked mobs. If you cant get enough credit for the gold chest it is a 90 minute waste of time. They also need to allow you to be able to invite people. Even if its people from within diadem. Crafters should not be in the same party as combat classes, they need to split it up or move diadem gathering points to the overworld and remove them from diadem.

[Stupiduglytaru]

Unfortunately pf isn't the solution, dicks will be dicks. My bl filling up quick

[Archchancellor]

OP needs to get over himself, we did not sign a blood pact with the old gods to just be a fighter in his farm party. When we use the DF all we are signing up for is completing the objectives for the eso. After that people in the party own you nothing.

Stop whining. The only issue that needs to be addressed is letting someone roll on loot they didn't contribute on.

This need to be added. And in the meantime if OP is so scared of gathers leaching his loot (loot that he has a god given right to have)all he need to do is is not use the DF and PF it or make a premade group with his friends.

To be honest the DPS check to to be lower for gaining credit on the higher level mobs. The best way to always get credit my group found is to have 2 healers and all the rest as DPS. And to be honest this should not be the best ways of playing the diadem but it is.

[Asmodai]

OP needs to get over himself, we did not sign a blood pact with the old gods to just be a fighter in his farm party. When we use the DF all we are signing up for is completing the objectives for the eso. After that people in the party own you nothing.



This need to be added. And in the meantime if OP is so scared of gathers leaching his loot (loot that he has a god given right to have)all he need to do is is not use the DF and PF it or make a premade group with his friends.

This is going to change, the design flaws in diadem are pretty obvious. The whole "OMG I PLAY DA WAY I WANT" argument is not going to help you.

[SinisterJointss]

This is going to change, the design flaws in diadem are pretty obvious. The whole "OMG I PLAY DA WAY I WANT" argument is not going to help you.

and neither is the whole "OMG YOU PLAY DA WAY I WANT" argument. Diadem def needs to change but not in the way you want. You dont want gatherers in your diadem group? USE THE DAMN PF, thats what its there for.

[Asmodai]

and neither is the whole "OMG YOU PLAY DA WAY I WANT" argument. Diadem def needs to change but not in the way you want. You dont want gatherers in your diadem group? USE THE DAMN PF, thats what its there for.

You want to gather feel free to make a PF group for it instead of screwing the majority of people who dont through duty finder, its what it is there for. Additionally im pretty confident that its going to change much more towards what I want than what you're thinking.

[Archchancellor]

This is going to change, the design flaws in diadem are pretty obvious. The whole "OMG I PLAY DA WAY I WANT" argument is not going to help you.

You want to gather feel free to make a PF group for it instead of screwing the majority of people who dont through duty finder, its what it is there for. Additionally im pretty confident that its going to change much more towards what I want than what you're thinking.

Why do gathering have to make a PF but not people who want to do combat? And btw the DF is there for people who gather as well, not just for you.


Well you get the prize for missing the point. It is not I play the way I want. It is I am playing the way the DF expects.

If you DF and dont want people to go gathering maybe you could try being nice to them instead of going off on a power trip about how you are owed something.

You can attract more bees with honey than vinegar.

[Felis]

What about those people who left once the have their eso? Why don't anyone complain about them?

[Gilraen]

What these threads keep forgetting when they rage all over the forums about 'gatherers in their precious content' is that Exploration was originally meant for companies with airships. It was made publicly available for those companies who don't have houses to install a workshop to make an airship with. Exploration was intended to give every member of a company something to do, whether they are in it for combat or not. This is another case of players doing something Square hadn't anticipated and a bigger sign of what's happened to our community.