Yay or Nay : Silence/stun abilties that have potency attached

[RiceisNice]

Example abilities like Blunt Arrow, Head Graze and jugugater. Do you think these abilities should have a potency attached to it, or should only have the effect?

I personally feel that the added potency turns these skills into somthing that you'd use off cooldown withouta thought, which imo breeds a bad habit when it comes to figuring out what can and can't be silenced, as well as the use of stun DRs on normal mobs.

[Greedalox]

I agree. I feel that Head Graze and Suppressive fire should be made into the same ability, have their potency removed and give us an OGCD with similar potency and CD to takes its place. It'd be the same number of skills but just clean up the functionality I feel. Same could be done for other classes with similar issues.

[Archaell]

Blank shot... so much pain during leveling my tanks was caused by this skill due to potency.

Imo stun, silence and knockback skills should not have potency. They are there to provide utility, but the potency turns them into dps boost, which is a problem when monsters get immunity.

I agree. I feel that Head Graze and Suppressive fire should be made into the same ability, have their potency removed and give us an OGCD with similar potency and CD to takes its place. It'd be the same number of skills but just clean up the functionality I feel. Same could be done for other classes with similar issues.

I have a macro to use Suppressive fire when in range and Head Graze at distance... unfortunately can't use it much as macros suck big time in this game, so I wouldn't mind if they combined it into one skill.

[Cabalabob]

Yes I hate the oGCD's dealing damage, it's such a pain when mnks drgs drks and wars destroy stun resistance to get their extra dps. And I'm guilty of spirits withining without a second thought when I'm supposed to be saving it for silence. The need to use them for dps just kills their tactical use, I'd prefer more moves like shield bash and feint that are on the GCD to get add effects and have oGCD's be more something to make up damage when you have to stop and prepare to use said skills.

[twoheadedenby]

Agree, especially on BRD where weaving Blunt Arrow (and I suppose Repelling Shot too if they're going to insist on leaving the job's mobility crippled) is a necessary part of maintaining optimal DPS, and yet another thing that WM has made hellish that really shouldn't be, and for any class with a knockback attack. I'd much rather see the potency accounted for elsewhere.

[Kabooa]

Eh. I'm stuck between saying yes and "That's two less buttons I get to push as a Machinist when '50% combo' procs 10% of the time."

[Archaell]

Eh. I'm stuck between saying yes and "That's two less buttons I get to push as a Machinist when '50% combo' procs 10% of the time."

That's exactly what is causing the immunity problem.

It's true that without Head Graze, Suppressive fire and Blank, we wouldn't have many buttons to press anymore.

Personally I would sacrfice Head Graze altogether for a dps skill that would also increase duration of Lead shot and maybe even spread it to near targets.

[fm_fenrir]

Example abilities like Blunt Arrow, Head Graze and jugugater. Do you think these abilities should have a potency attached to it, or should only have the effect?

I personally feel that the added potency turns these skills into somthing that you'd use off cooldown withouta thought, which imo breeds a bad habit when it comes to figuring out what can and can't be silenced, as well as the use of stun DRs on normal mobs.

Changing leg sweep or suppressive fire to a 0 potency stun would make it disappear from most hotbars, leaving only the few people who understand that DPS stuns are just as useful as tank stuns. Even if you factor in stun counters, the added value of hurr-durr bumblers accidentally stunning something appropriately, or just doing damage because they PRES BUTAN GUD, is far more valuable than keeping the stun counter clear for tank stuns only. There's only a couple particular enemy types or boss fights where a stun is required to keep someone from getting erased (the giant scorpion in Sastasha HM, for example).

[Underdog2204]

Never liked Blank + Repelling Shot being neccessary for dps.

Forcing a ranged job into melee range to do optimal damage is stupid.

I just think SE hates phsyical ranged classes and decided to lump all of the rubbish ideas onto them.

[AlvaroVanagandr]

Status moves should not be a part of dps unless it is somehow part of that job's niche. They lose their tactical value when people spam them to reach their dps potential. As dps, the primary goal is dealing damage, and debuffing is an afterthought.