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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mycow8me View Post
    They would have to make it a player hosted instance. There's no way in hell they are going to have servers capable of supporting that many houses even small ones. They know it, we know it, everyone knows it. They just wont admitt it. White knight chronicles did this system the best way. They can keep their server instances, those houses can be more expensive for it. I just want to be able to host my own instanced house.

    As a last alternative, the only way they could do this for everyone "who really wants it," they would have to charge a monthly fee similar to retainers which many people would fuss worse over.
    Ultimately best possible scenario is player hosted... if you have terrible internet or live in a third world country, its your problem then.
    Sorry but this just isn't true.

    There are MANY MMOs on the market that offer fully instanced, server-hosted housing for EVERY player. Hell FFXI gave every player their own instanced house. The entire point of instancing is that the server resources are freed up when no one is in the house as it doesn't keep the house loaded. The entire PROBLEM with the neighborhoods is that they are loaded as persistent zones and thus any further houses added are permanent drains on the server.

    They CAN give us instanced personal housing, they just won't for some reason. It's honestly pretty disgusting how little money is clearly being spent on development for this game at the moment. People have been leaving the game left,right and center since 3.0 and 3.1 did little at all to reignite interest in the game since the majority of the new content was redundant as soon as it released thanks to the diadem. Throw in the growing delays between patches and it looks like FFXIV is falling into the same rut that WoW did before it started bleeding subs.

    The lack of attention to the extremely obvious housing problems is part of a much more serious problem within the dev team. For some reason they have either had funding cuts or something has happened to make them incredibly inefficient in the last six months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
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    But there IS truth, its not completely impossible but unlikely due to the amount of instances in this game. Instances are provided through the DF servers. There was a time when the df servers were extremely unstable and waiting for your DF to load the instance was a problem in the past due to volume. I could see a couple hundred if not more instances clogging up the df servers... not to mention ppl like to afk at houses. I dont know the data needs for this game compared to others but offloading all of this onto the df servers might not be the best fix. Sounds like the server resources problem thats been beat to death in this topic already. Again the question is whether or not yoshidas throwing out excuses. Why not just let ppl host their own instances till they figure out how best to please the mob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_Angeles View Post
    So you took a picture of yourself laughing in front of someone else's house? Why do that?
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    Last edited by ToasterMan; 12-02-2015 at 01:48 PM.

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    The data for those zones requires hardly any storage, imagine 50+ or even 100+ just small houses crammed into a zone and the sheer amount of stored data it takes. If it wasnt much, SE would have created larger instances with much more houses already. No one knows the numbers but server populations are numbers we CAN look at. If you think it will be possible on a legacy server without transfers away from... not very likely at all. Thats just considering one server.
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    Last edited by Mycow8me; 11-21-2015 at 04:38 PM.

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    Khuja'to Kurozuki
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    i recall they said they cant do instances housing because they way instances work wont allow it. (they don't save the data that happens inside it)
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    Iris Valkyrie
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    To address this fully, they'd need to overhaul the instance servers entirely and tack on a lot more. As a player on Balmung, at peak times, we can have our FC ramming their heads into door, then at the workshop, just trying to get an available instance server. This has happened more than a handful of times.

    I imagine all the houses, free company rooms, workshops, etc all will load up an instance server in an available slot. You can have all these homes, rooms, workshops, etc all exist as data but you can't always load into them.

    In the end this isn't simply a matter of just adding wards that easily. It's a quite expensive and cost increasing measure I'd imagine to handle a fraction of total rooms/homes available. So they're probably trying to free up as many as possible before investing in this.
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    Yawn Alexander
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    their servers are antiquated. Yoshi-P said updating the servers was his very last resort. Instead, he's trying to maximize what he can get out of the ancient ones we're currently using.
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    Miranda Madison
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    Why not just add more wards? Or is the "servers might crash" the excuse?
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    As someone who owns a personal mansion, I am indifferent.
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