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  1. #21
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    UnstablePersonality's Avatar
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    Athena Nightreaper
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    I actually did play PW for a bit before 1.0 came out and went back to it for the time between 1.0 and 2.0 xD
    Still one of my better experiences with the "free" 2 play model. But since FFXIV isn't and we already pay monthly, I really want them to fix this problem without us having to pay extra.

    I'm just saying that they finally managed to get huge parts of the playerbase to the point where they are ready to swallow up their anger and just pay up to get what they want, just the way they did with more inventory/storage space, the other huge thing pretty much everyone wants but does not get for free (but where an extra-payment option is already available in form of additional retainers).
    Anything perfect world makes is shit simple as that, they don't even take care of their games anymore.
    (3)

    Friend/recruitment code for special items and things (use before paying first sub) RACN78W5 (updated) info on items here http://sqex.to/Cz9 code is entered via the mogstation.

  2. #22
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    Dree-Elle's Avatar
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    Dree Elle
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Voltyblast View Post
    I'd make FC private chambers free.
    A noble thought, to be certain. But the game desperately needs what few gilsinks it has; how would you redistribute the 300k cost of the Private Chambers in order to make them free?
    (2)

  3. #23
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    Colorful's Avatar
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    Charlotte Elise
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    Kujata
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Dree-Elle View Post
    A noble thought, to be certain. But the game desperately needs what few gilsinks it has; how would you redistribute the 300k cost of the Private Chambers in order to make them free?
    I don't think it has to be free myself, just a one time purchase unlinked with FCs. Some players move from an FC more than a few times, each and every time you have to rebuy the room, it happens. Some FCs don't have a house, leaving them SOL when their members want to buy rooms, and then some people just don't want to be a part of an FC. If one FC house can support 512 rooms, I see no reason why they can't be implemented in a similar fashion to the inn rooms, maybe even replace them entirely.
    (2)

  4. #24
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    Lego3400's Avatar
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    Limsa Lomnisa (Live) Uldah (Beta)
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    Vandal Lillithson
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Krazymagic View Post
    My complaint with most developers is why such systems arent part of an initial housing system implementation. Imagine if this system had been in place since day 1. You would see a few houses opening up on a regular basis.
    I belive they planned on it, but players revolted.
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  5. #25
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    BreathlessTao's Avatar
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    Shuu Naranol
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    Omega
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyson View Post
    Again, I just don't understand how this is still even an issue. Have you painted yourself into a corner code-wise? Is it just not technically feasible? You have so many mechanics tied to housing, and so much time invested into all that housing-related development, and yet for some insane reason you refuse to make it available to every player who has saved up enough gil to buy a home. It makes absolutely no sense at all. You could have a player-base full of happy home-owners, but instead you have a bunch of annoyed players who want to be home-owners yet can't be. How is this good for the health of your game/business?
    This though. And they keep adding new features, they keep adding dozens of new furniture in each patch, they keep tweaking functions - and for what? A very small fragment of the playerbase.

    Oh but at the same time, they advertise it highlighted among features such as FCs and crafting on the "For New Players" PR page.........

    Idk. So many thoughts about this, but frankly I we just keep repeating ourselves time and time again. And personally I've gotten to the point where I'm too exhausted even thinking about it at all. Disillusioned. Don't see the point of wasting energy on even putting anything into words. Game's more than 2 years old. In that time, I've been saving every gil I could to get a house, not being able to enjoy minions, new glamour outfits, whatnots - I have a pile of gil having forfeited a lot of enjoyment, and I still can't have a house. Do the math, SE.
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    Last edited by BreathlessTao; 11-21-2015 at 01:08 PM. Reason: ENOUGH WITH THE GODSDAMNED CHARACTER LIMIT ALREADY

  6. #26
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lego3400 View Post
    I belive they planned on it, but players revolted.
    Some players are revolting now...and protesting the housing system too.

    To answer the question in the topic title, it currently seems that your answer is; "when hell freezes over."
    (2)

  7. #27
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    Whocareswhatmynameis's Avatar
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    Fate Bringer
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Truthfully they should have coupled this with not allowing personal houses no more. So FCs can get a dam house and an airship and stables for their FC members. Then when people only sub for 2 weeks a year they still have access to the FC house.
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  8. #28
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    SonKevin's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Fax Machine
    World
    Pandaemonium
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 4
    If they stop people from buying gil, they would stop people from buying houses so quickly. I just can't believe a person with no crafting or gathering classes having enough money to buy a house is a believable thing.
    (2)

  9. #29
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    Ryel's Avatar
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    Ryel Altaria
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SonKevin View Post
    If they stop people from buying gil, they would stop people from buying houses so quickly. I just can't believe a person with no crafting or gathering classes having enough money to buy a house is a believable thing.
    There are plenty of ways to make gil without a crafter / gatherer

    Ex primal mats
    Coil mats
    Treasure maps
    Content sales
    Daily/Weekly challenges
    Retainer Ventures
    Law/Red Scrip mat sales
    Playing the marketboard
    Spiritbonding / Materia sales
    Diadem Materia Sales

    I mean the list goes on

    Stopping RMT wont put a dent in the number of available players who legitimately have made their gil and are still waiting for open plots.
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    Last edited by Ryel; 11-21-2015 at 02:58 PM.

  10. #30
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    Mycow8me's Avatar
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    Tolby Seyfert
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    Cactuar
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    Blacksmith Lv 70
    They would have to make it a player hosted instance. There's no way in hell they are going to have servers capable of supporting that many houses even small ones. They know it, we know it, everyone knows it. They just wont admitt it. White knight chronicles did this system the best way. They can keep their server instances, those houses can be more expensive for it. I just want to be able to host my own instanced house.

    As a last alternative, the only way they could do this for everyone "who really wants it," they would have to charge a monthly fee similar to retainers which many people would fuss worse over.
    Ultimately best possible scenario is player hosted... if you have terrible internet or live in a third world country, its your problem then.
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