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  1. #1
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    Gyson Kincaid
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    the system itself is not a bad idea. the implementation of mixing it with Personal Housing is a bad idea. the neighborhoods should have been FC only and they should've taken steps against multiple FC houses on the same server on the same account. in that situation 1k plots is more than enough for any server.

    player housing should be instanced but it's too late now.
    I actually like that personal houses have a physical space in an instanced neighborhood. I would not want to see them turned into the equivalent of instanced inn/private chambers. Besides, the space in those small homes are barely reasonable for a single owner (or couple). I don't think most guilds even want them, save for the fact that the either have no other choice, or want access to housing features (at which point it might as well just be a menu interface for all the actual use a physical location will get).

    Honestly, if it were up to me personal homes (and not just guilds) would also have access to private chambers within homes to uses as additional decorating space, but that's another discussion.

    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Incorrect. If a player is gone for good, the chance of losing a house isn't going to make them come back.
    Many players don't know when they're "gone for good", only when they're going to be gone long enough to justify no longer paying a monthly subscription.

    Look, in other MMOs players will log back in for a handful of minutes just to secure their names in an inactive-name-wipe event, even on an account they have not played in years. I think you are underestimating how strongly MMO gamers feel about the virtual items they've gone through much trouble to obtain. In many cases they want to retain them even if they're not actively playing, and few things will convince them to sever ties completely than a developer eradicating the results of that effort. It is precisely for that reason that MMOs do not delete your character the moment your subscription lapses - they want you back and they know the odds of you returning are vastly improved if you can return with everything about your character just as you left it.
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    Last edited by Gyson; 11-21-2015 at 02:46 AM.

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    Rama Kagon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyson View Post
    I actually like that personal houses have a physical space in an instanced neighborhood. I would not want to see them turned into the equivalent of instanced inn/private chambers. Besides, the space in those small homes are barely reasonable for a single owner (or couple).
    I usually make this kind of question for those who want to keep this system: do you want something to work properly or not? I ask because the current system is, no offense here, utter garbage and doesn't satisfy the demand of housing. It just doesn't and there's absolutely nothing positive right now (keyword, right now).
    In my case I have a house but I WOULD IMMEDIATELY give it away if I could have a private chamber or some sort of instanced place for myself: it'd be small, yes, but it would be mine and it wouldn't have a time bomb attached on it. I can get a private chambers, yes, but I lose it immediately once I leave, including my money. Might as well be homeless then!

    In my opinion however, I'd fix this in a simple, yet logical way: make FC private chambers free. Lots of people will be glad to have a room for themselves, FOR FREE, and would even encourage FC to recruit more people because, let's face it, aside the Diadem (hard) you don't need a FC for anything: raiding is Static-based and only requires a linkshell at worst. Buffs? Passable, but I've played nearly 2 years without a FC and I managed to get my jobs at 50 with ease. Friends? That's usually subjective plus I'm very asocial. Easier to make groups? That's debatable: my best groups were pugs, and my worsts were premades.

    So my suggestion is, in the LONG while they fix the housing, make private chambers free in the meantime. I mean 300k might not be a lot for some, but they can be easily lost too. But if the player has nothing to lose while getting a free room, why just not letting them?
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    Last edited by Voltyblast; 11-21-2015 at 02:51 AM.

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    Charlotte Elise
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    Instanced housing is now available on the Mog Station, purchase your own little plot of land and get your designer spirit out! Spent countless hours designing homes, invite friends for in-game celebrations, create wonderful exteriors, and have a blast with the new instanced housing!

    $6.99 a month for each instanced home purchased.
    I can see it happening...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Instanced housing is now available on the Mog Station, purchase your own little plot of land and get your designer spirit out! Spent countless hours designing homes, invite friends for in-game celebrations, create wonderful exteriors, and have a blast with the new instanced housing!
    $6.99 a month for each instanced home purchased.
    I'd buy it ._.
    They got us so starved for housing plots already, I don't care what I have to do to get one. Murder my FC? Okay. Betray my Grand Company? Sure, why not. Sell my rl home to afford the FFXIV one? If you say so, SE.
    At this point, as long as it's available in some shape or form, I'd even throw rl money at SE if it meant I can finally tend to my own garden =.=
    God, I hate myself for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    I'd buy it ._.
    They got us so starved for housing plots already, I don't care what I have to do to get one. Murder my FC? Okay. Betray my Grand Company? Sure, why not. Sell my rl home to afford the FFXIV one? If you say so, SE.
    At this point, as long as it's available in some shape or form, I'd even throw rl money at SE if it meant I can finally tend to my own garden =.=
    God, I hate myself for this.
    I'd end up buying it too, and that's the problem. They wait for the frustrations of the playerbase to build up, and then bam! Here's some on the Mog Station for ya', who could resist? I hope Yoshida has a better sense of how not to fuck over his fan base though.
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    Miranda Madison
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    I'd buy it ._.
    They got us so starved for housing plots already, I don't care what I have to do to get one. Murder my FC? Okay. Betray my Grand Company? Sure, why not. Sell my rl home to afford the FFXIV one? If you say so, SE.
    At this point, as long as it's available in some shape or form, I'd even throw rl money at SE if it meant I can finally tend to my own garden =.=
    God, I hate myself for this.
    Perfect World would love a player like you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilite View Post
    Perfect World would love a player like you.
    I actually did play PW for a bit before 1.0 came out and went back to it for the time between 1.0 and 2.0 xD
    Still one of my better experiences with the "free" 2 play model. But since FFXIV isn't and we already pay monthly, I really want them to fix this problem without us having to pay extra.

    I'm just saying that they finally managed to get huge parts of the playerbase to the point where they are ready to swallow up their anger and just pay up to get what they want, just the way they did with more inventory/storage space, the other huge thing pretty much everyone wants but does not get for free (but where an extra-payment option is already available in form of additional retainers).
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    Athena Nightreaper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    I actually did play PW for a bit before 1.0 came out and went back to it for the time between 1.0 and 2.0 xD
    Still one of my better experiences with the "free" 2 play model. But since FFXIV isn't and we already pay monthly, I really want them to fix this problem without us having to pay extra.

    I'm just saying that they finally managed to get huge parts of the playerbase to the point where they are ready to swallow up their anger and just pay up to get what they want, just the way they did with more inventory/storage space, the other huge thing pretty much everyone wants but does not get for free (but where an extra-payment option is already available in form of additional retainers).
    Anything perfect world makes is shit simple as that, they don't even take care of their games anymore.
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    Friend/recruitment code for special items and things (use before paying first sub) RACN78W5 (updated) info on items here http://sqex.to/Cz9 code is entered via the mogstation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Instanced housing is now available on the Mog Station, purchase your own little plot of land and get your designer spirit out! Spent countless hours designing homes, invite friends for in-game celebrations, create wonderful exteriors, and have a blast with the new instanced housing!

    $6.99 a month for each instanced home purchased.

    I can see it happening...
    Pretty much what's going to happen in my opinion: I mean nobody can say anything against the mogstation without the usual "OH IT'S OPTIONAL, SO DON'T BUY IT!" retort. Well I suppose if the house comes out, you got that option too.

    It's a bad option but hey, they can always NOT BUY IT!
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    personally i think SE is far too deep into the current situation that its nearly unfix-able at this point. most likely they will just add more housing wards which will be taken up and then we will see another thread complaining about no housing space.

    PS: i really do hate this situation i want a house but cannot afford the hyper-inflated prices it costs to get it from somebody or FC.
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