Diadem broke the game

[Hakuohsama]

Endless Ques in Roulletes, party finder full with Diadem groups, you get Esoteric marks and you can actually get 210 Gear out of it even when the stats are random.

Basicly all you can do all day is Diadem, cause its the best option.
The only thing you cant get from there is a weapon... but relic weapons are on the way so who cares..
Farming Materia never was so easy.

Diadem offers way to much for almost no effort at all and makes Roulletes and for some people even raiding obsolete.
Its great that people have something to do now.. but everything in one mode?
Thats just my opinion..

[LandricFrey]

Reminds me of hunts of when all people did was hunts of previous cycles. Game broken? Nah, it's just another odd patch number.

[iambanana]

why blame the diadem? its just the raid and dungeon should providing more reward than nerfing the diadem. really other than direct gear, normal/roullete dungeon doesnt drop anything right now, no rare material, nothing.

dungeon should give something to grind, not only minion, but give them glamour material/gear material too, or give them super rare equip that 10/15 ilvl ahead the usual gear drop. lack of grindable thing is a problem in this game, diadem is alive because a lot of people doing that over and over again because they want i210 or want pegasus. is there any reason for a player doing dungeon over and over again? no, a chance for a minion drop is not worth the time.

[AeraLure]

why blame the diadem? its just the raid and dungeon should providing more reward than nerfing the diadem. really other than direct gear, normal/roullete dungeon doesnt drop anything right now, no rare material, nothing.

dungeon should give something to grind, not only minion, but give them glamour material/gear material too, or give them super rare equip that 10/15 ilvl ahead the usual gear drop. lack of grindable thing is a problem in this game, diadem is alive because a lot of people doing that over and over again because they want i210 or want pegasus. is there any reason for a player doing dungeon over and over again? no, a chance for a minion drop is not worth the time.

^ This. Diadem is the first place that rewards you for playing it over and over. You might get a 210 piece you can use for any job you have (or your main if you play need-only), but you'll definitely at least get some trade-ins. Compare that to pretty much anywhere else - Void Ark offers the weekly token and EX daily allows the weekly eso cap. Do those and you are done for the day/week. Aside from those, everything else (except A4S and Thordan EX for weapons) is glamour. The game actually needed something like this imho and needs more (though we need more raids too - end game is anemic). That's not to say, though, that it doesn't have its own problems (it's tedious with no mechanics or worthwhile objectives, you're punished if some of your party leave to gather due to the claiming system, can't cooperate with Alliances).

[Kuroyasha]

why blame the diadem? its just the raid and dungeon should providing more reward than nerfing the diadem. really other than direct gear, normal/roullete dungeon doesnt drop anything right now, no rare material, nothing.

dungeon should give something to grind, not only minion, but give them glamour material/gear material too, or give them super rare equip that 10/15 ilvl ahead the usual gear drop. lack of grindable thing is a problem in this game, diadem is alive because a lot of people doing that over and over again because they want i210 or want pegasus. is there any reason for a player doing dungeon over and over again? no, a chance for a minion drop is not worth the time.

hohohooo rest assured, you'll get all kinds of grind with relic...all kiiiinds. And then we'll get complaints of the grind in the dungeons. Why? Because days change, but some things just stay the same.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

hohohooo rest assured, you'll get all kinds of grind with relic...all kiiiinds. And then we'll get complaints of the grind in the dungeons. Why? Because days change, but some things just stay the same.

Don't forget how relic users will be shuned by raiders for getting a handout weapon.

[skyfox]

hohohooo rest assured, you'll get all kinds of grind with relic...all kiiiinds. And then we'll get complaints of the grind in the dungeons. Why? Because days change, but some things just stay the same.

Well Mate, if you think about how they make money, it's pretty obvious why they design that way. There is no MMO outthere without any form of grind. If someone doesn't like grind, MMO is clearly not a choice for them

[Katlyna]

why blame the diadem? its just the raid and dungeon should providing more reward than nerfing the diadem. really other than direct gear, normal/roullete dungeon doesnt drop anything right now, no rare material, nothing.

That is the problem in a nutshell. Diadem isn't the problem rather previous content having crappy rewards or being gates too strictly. Eso should never have been gated weekly for ALL classes (no other game is like this, other games you change characters and bam your weeklys are unlocked). And same for savage, who's rewards are just terrible and horribly slow.

[rappa]

Raids and tomes are fine. Lookout works to keep playing and see how your character goes better.

The problem lies into Diadem and his brainless playstyle.
- If you want to clear a hardcore Raid you have to play well.
- If you want gear, enter Diadem.

Raiders are being called selfish, elitist and others adjectives. Now, a causal dungeon is breaking the balance to the opposite side. Hardcore raiders get achievement and rare items. In the other hand, an effortless dungeon drops the Best gear and a lot of players, who don't care about "savage gear", are playing a lot to get 210 items. Hypocrisy.

IMHO. Promoting the laziness and the effortless is not the right way to be a healthy game.

[Zorlinta]

Well diadem is just fine. The trouble are the raid/savage contents, wich is only accessible to probably less than 5% of all players and also those who are there are totally against new players and its very toxic. Diadem maybe is probably accesible up to 15%.