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    Wanderers Minuet Suggestion - Add a 1sec CD between turning off and on.

    This isn't a complaint first and foremost. I have accepted the new Bard and actually quite enjoying it since I transfered servers with no lag whatsoever and with the recent patch, most of the latency issues have disappeared.

    But, just one thing that sorta bothers me, when you are in WM stance and you turn it off, there is no CD to turn it on again. But when you turn it on, there is a 15 sec CD.
    I don't really mind the 15 sec CD, but having no CD when turning it off means you can turn it back on immediately, which sometimes creates havoc when someone like me who is a trigger happy player just turns it off and turns it right back on during a mobile phase.
    That makes me one unhappy BRD for 15 seconds :<

    Maybe 1 sec, or 3 sec CD will be fine to combat this. Cos if you are turning WM off, you will probably do it on purpose for a good reason and don't need it back for a couple seconds. That may just be me, what do you fellow BRD's think?
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    Well I rarely turn it off

    in fact recently the only fight I've been turning it off is that one morbol in the Aroboretum; turn it off and run around it when it and its babies are spewing bad breath at me -_-
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    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    Well I rarely turn it off

    in fact recently the only fight I've been turning it off is that one morbol in the Aroboretum; turn it off and run around it when it and its babies are spewing bad breath at me -_-
    There are times when if you want to maximize your DPS potential, you have to turn it off, unless you get good proc timings. Specially with Thordan EX right now, there are many times that you have to move around, specially in the last KotR phases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xXRaineXx View Post
    There are times when if you want to maximize your DPS potential, you have to turn it off, unless you get good proc timings. Specially with Thordan EX right now, there are many times that you have to move around, specially in the last KotR phases.
    Well, yeah, heavy movement is a no-brainer to turn it off, but I haven't done a lot of Thordan EX yet.. I really meant the only fight -I've- been in. I'm sure there are other fights right now (like that ball...tether...thing section in Ravvy EX) where you'll turn it off due to too much movement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    Well, yeah, heavy movement is a no-brainer to turn it off, but I haven't done a lot of Thordan EX yet.. I really meant the only fight -I've- been in. I'm sure there are other fights right now (like that ball...tether...thing section in Ravvy EX) where you'll turn it off due to too much movement.
    As Alphafox mentioned, it can be a nuisance when you accidentally turn it right back on and you are stuck in WM form for 15 seconds when you don't have time to cast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xXRaineXx View Post
    As Alphafox mentioned, it can be a nuisance when you accidentally turn it right back on and you are stuck in WM form for 15 seconds when you don't have time to cast.
    Good argument for equipping Feint, I guess. Do wish there was like a 1gcd lockout (or have turning it off be independent of the GCD) like the OP wants though. I mash buttons while dpsing, and I'm sure I'm not alone.
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    I know its the same issue with Cleric Stance for me, especially when it gets hectic turning it off and accidentally turn it right back on.
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    It had a cooldown in the form of casting time, people hated it (for some strange reason). I think Square could easily construe this as a, "Do you or do you not want a cooldown? make up your minds!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    It had a cooldown in the form of casting time, people hated it (for some strange reason). I think Square could easily construe this as a, "Do you or do you not want a cooldown? make up your minds!"
    That is totally different. To cast it, you had to throw away valuable 3 seconds away from dps'in. A 3 sec CD in-between 3 seconds you want to move around is a completely different subject.
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    Would love it if it had a .6 second CD or so to prevent double-click reactivation on laggy nights... and if the lock-in CD was reduced to 5-10 seconds... *whistling*

    Anything longer than .6 seconds though wouldn't be a matter of accidental doubling, and could prevent people from getting in that extra AA during a Straighter Shot or (after dropping) Straight/Heavy Shot with no oGCDs ready - BRD's tiny, tiny bit of stance dancing during otherwise dummy dps.
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