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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Literally just posted this on your other thread, but here we go.

    A quick way to lose faith and respect amongst your paying customers would be to start releasing "exclusive" items that come from events / special purchases to the general playerbase. Essentially, these items are a little "thank you" to customers for spending additional money (either through events, buying CDS, preorders, whatever) outside of your subscription fee.

    There seems to be a lot of entitlement that floats around with the crowd who thinks all items should be released to everyone. Outside of showing up to conventions, just about everything else is available easily to those who want to pay for it.
    This is patently untrue. The only thing they lose is the ability to lord over others who either are new to the game or missed the event. Say they put Lightning's hair and outfit on the Cash Shop. People who participated in the event got a side quest and free items, whereas everyone else loses that content and must pay for whatever items they fancy. By restricting it instead, you piss off people aren't able to obtain these items. Like, for instance, I am unable to complete my Culinarian log because Haddock is an event item. That's that plan irksome.

    It is hardly entitlement asking to pay for items we cannot get otherwise. In fact, that's the precise opposite. If people were clamoring for them to be free, then you could make a case for entitlement. But not now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    I am unable to complete my Culinarian log because Haddock is an event item. That's that plan irksome.
    Damn, I thought they would have just chucked them into the FC Vendor like they did the items that make the Starlight Dodo. That's just shit that they didn't. I'd have bought far more if I had known that were going to be the case (afaik, they're sellable on the MB).
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    It is hardly entitlement asking to pay for items we cannot get otherwise. In fact, that's the precise opposite. If people were clamoring for them to be free, then you could make a case for entitlement. But not now.
    THIS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    This is patently untrue. The only thing they lose is the ability to lord over others who either are new to the game or missed the event. Say they put Lightning's hair and outfit on the Cash Shop. People who participated in the event got a side quest and free items, whereas everyone else loses that content and must pay for whatever items they fancy. By restricting it instead, you piss off people aren't able to obtain these items. Like, for instance, I am unable to complete my Culinarian log because Haddock is an event item. That's that plan irksome.

    It is hardly entitlement asking to pay for items we cannot get otherwise. In fact, that's the precise opposite. If people were clamoring for them to be free, then you could make a case for entitlement. But not now.
    I've never once lorded over anyone the fact that I have a moogle costume, or lightning hair, or any other fluff item that this is supposedly about. There are also several items that I don't have because I had either been unsubbed or just missed entirely. That's just how it works.


    I truly don't understand how people can feel they deserve to have every last item in a game, even if they weren't around at the time, or simply didn't partake when the opportunity was presented to them. To me, that is entitlement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    I've never once lorded over anyone the fact that I have a moogle costume, or lightning hair, or any other fluff item that this is supposedly about. There are also several items that I don't have because I had either been unsubbed or just missed entirely. That's just how it works.


    I truly don't understand how people can feel they deserve to have every last item in a game, even if they weren't around at the time, or simply didn't partake when the opportunity was presented to them. To me, that is entitlement.
    No one is saying they deserve them, but merely want them made available. That is just human nature at work. It especially becomes annoying since you'll see items on other players you have no way of accessing, even if you're willing to pay for them. Exclusivity of glamour gear benefits no one. My paying $10 for the Lightning hair does not suddenly devalue your enjoyment of it. And if it does, well, that's a whole different problem, which hearkens back to my initial point.

    Legacy items, I agree, are unique. As they exist solely as a gift to players who paid for a subpar product. In essence, they're a "We're very sorry. Please come back" item.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    I've never once lorded over anyone the fact that I have a moogle costume, or lightning hair, or any other fluff item that this is supposedly about.
    Sure, you have. Every time you say other people who didn't take part in the events shouldn't be able to get them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    I truly don't understand how people can feel they deserve to have every last item in a game, even if they weren't around at the time, or simply didn't partake when the opportunity was presented to them. To me, that is entitlement.
    They don't deserve to get it any more than you deserve for it to be exclusive.

    Apart from a couple items released for the express purpose of commemorating people's presence at the close of the 1.x version of the game, nothing else has been offered as an exclusive event item. Items that you receive through events may possibly wind up as de facto exclusives if they don't happen to be offered again, but there's no reason to expect exclusivity as an entitlement on them.

    You (and a lot of people with the same view) seem to think that just because something has ever had a period of not being available, it should therefore never be available again. That's nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    Sure, you have. Every time you say other people who didn't take part in the events shouldn't be able to get them.



    They don't deserve to get it any more than you deserve for it to be exclusive.

    Apart from a couple items released for the express purpose of commemorating people's presence at the close of the 1.x version of the game, nothing else has been offered as an exclusive event item. Items that you receive through events may possibly wind up as de facto exclusives if they don't happen to be offered again, but there's no reason to expect exclusivity as an entitlement on them.

    You (and a lot of people with the same view) seem to think that just because something has ever had a period of not being available, it should therefore never be available again. That's nonsense.
    You seem to like me But in all seriousness, being of the opinion that some items should remain exclusive is not the same as lording it over someone. That is simply being an adult and acknowledging the fact that sometimes cool rewards get passed out to those who participated in something special. That is it.

    I think some items should come back annually, like how it does in XI. If you read all my posts, you would have seen that before claiming I don't want anything to come back ever.
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    IT's fine to not get everthing in this game.
    I started with HW Addon and missed Lightning Event, too.

    Does it bother me? No.
    Do I want a comeback of the Event? Well not without a reason, like the Lightning Returns Release where this Event took part.
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    Aside from the Legacy items and special items that come with plushies and offical soundtracks, I think SE should release them all on the Mog Station for the same fee as it was before. Stuff like Moogle suit, FFXIII glamour items, hairstyles, Dragon Quest items need to be sold via the Mog Station. This is a win/win for SE and the playerbase. SE has alot of events and items that can sold for a nice profit and from reading the threads on the forum there is a demand for it, why isnt SE supplying it?

    I own the moogle suit, lightning hairstyle etc., so its not like I am supporting this thread so I can get something. Items like the moogle suit was sold for 25 euro at the time, it was no promise from SE, it was no exclusive stuff, since everyone could buy it for 25 euro. So why not put the moogle suit for 10,50 euro (we got the livestream) on the Mog Station? Those that realy want the item can buy it, SE gets $$$$ that they can use to make more content or glamours, WIN/WIN.

    I agree that legacy stuff should be left alone, the items are a reward for paying a subscription of a dying game and minions from CD or Plushies are still being sold, so they should be left alone, but everyone else is fair game, in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taur View Post
    I agree with you. A lot of people get really butthurt on these forums for a simple questions.

    Here's an idea! If you don't want to read a thread about the same topic, DON'T CLICK ON IT. it's really that simple. They just want to be rude for no reason. Ignore them though, sadly there's people like this in every online game.
    THANK YOU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    So put them in the cash shop? That's, like, literally supporting the game ._.'
    Im mainly speaking for lightning event items and moogle attire so yes
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