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[Preypacer]

agreed 100%

The poll on an open site like ZAM can be voted on by anyone, even if they don't have a FFXIV account and wouldn't be affected by it at all either way. People who have no personal stake in the outcome can still cast a vote, and so the results can be diluted - on both sides- by people who haven't bought the game and/or aren't playing it in the first place.

If these forums were open/public, I'd have the same opinion here.

However, they're not.

Since an actual account and an active character in-game are required to post here, those voting have already invested money and/or time into the game. 100% of those answering the poll here are directly affected by subscriptions being enabled.

Thus, I think the poll results here are far more accurate and telling than that of a poll on ZAM, or some other public site where anyone can vote.

[grandm]

i wonder ppl have read the new translation from yoshi-p. something i found intresting was he pointed out its not the game that is 50% but the final fantasy feel. so from what i can see when the party search and AH are adding in 1.20 he thinks this will be a 100% MMO. if not a 100% final fantasy game. i wonder if this has changed any1's mind on paying or not?

[Soukyuu]

he thinks this will be a 100% MMO. if not a 100% final fantasy game. i wonder if this has changed any1's mind on paying or not?

Why? Just because he thinks it's good enough, doesn't mean people not willing to pay will change their mind.

[Laf]

Probably not, I'm not too keen on paying for alpha version of the game.

[Molly_Millions]

Probably not, I'm not too keen on paying for alpha version of the game.

This isn't an alpha or even a beta, so no worries there.

[Laf]

This isn't an alpha or even a beta, so no worries there.

What is it when?

[Jennestia]

What is it when?

It's a game that's gone gold -- it's not a beta or alpha. Do you even know what an alpha is? Alpha builds generally have zero working mechanics, they're usually to test a very specific feature or set of features and very rarely can even be played.

You could consider this a glorified beta if you want, as we weren't paying pretty much anything, even while it was free for a year. You had a box cost, but you didn't even get a cashshop.

[Preypacer]

i wonder ppl have read the new translation from yoshi-p. something i found intresting was he pointed out its not the game that is 50% but the final fantasy feel. so from what i can see when the party search and AH are adding in 1.20 he thinks this will be a 100% MMO. if not a 100% final fantasy game. i wonder if this has changed any1's mind on paying or not?

Yep, I've noticed that since he said it. He's referring to the overall FF feel, not the game's "completion".

But of course, far be it from people looking to push an agenda (not wanting to pay to play the game) to ignore the actual context of a statement, and instead spin it to suit their own ends.

Cherry-picking and quoting things out of context are, after all, their favorite weapons.

[Preypacer]

Why? Just because he thinks it's good enough, doesn't mean people not willing to pay will change their mind.

No, it probably won't change minds. But for those with intellectual integrity and who prefer to base their decisions on actual facts rather than cherry-picked and deliberately misrepresented statements may feel compelled to find a new reason to hang their decision on.

Now that Yoshi has clarified his statement, no one can honestly say "It's not worth playing because Yoshi has stated it's only 50% complete".

... not that it's going to stop some folks from repeating it anyway.

[Laf]

It's a game that's gone gold -- it's not a beta or alpha. Do you even know what an alpha is? Alpha builds generally have zero working mechanics, they're usually to test a very specific feature or set of features and very rarely can even be played.

Pre-alpha you mean? Alpha version can have working mechanics and made into game, if you ignore poor code and bugs.


Oh, I should have noted I speaking game's content/functionality vise, devs still struggling to fix/make basics of the game. I can't be anything higher than alpha.