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  1. #121
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    I think they're making the same mistake from last year. They launched an incomplete game, still in Beta phase and even dare to announce people would have to p2p, as a result, dozen of thousands of angry fans left the game, leaving a very small loyal population (so small that many didn't even considered as a game community); in the next year, after several patches, that small number slowly began to increase until the last "big" patch, when the community finally reached a big increase in numbers.

    And it's now that they decided to launch the p2p notice?? -Sigh- Sadly, they're making the same mistake all over again: it's still TOO EARLY for p2p, sure the game got drastic changes, but not enough to be considered for a paying morpg; even less if you consider the new morpgs that gonna make their debut in the next months. FF14 isn't nearly strong enough to compete against them. Sure, all the "future" changes will literally kill these new games...in the future; but right now SE is making quite a risky and daring move with this Pay to Play Subscription.

    All that is left is to wonder: how bigger or even smaller would be the loyal community after this?
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    Last edited by Fanzeron; 10-15-2011 at 01:45 AM.

  2. #122
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    This poll is grosely innacurate. I'd like to point out that maybe one fifth of people who own this game (still playing or not) actually use the official forums ever. And I bet the percentage of people among those who dont use these forums who are willing to pay is substantially lower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    Seeing as I woulda paid close to launch anyway, of course I am paying.

    Something for people to remember though who say this is an incomplete game...

    just remember, this is about wher a launch game would be anyway.

    5 endgame dungeons/bosses(ifrit, 3 strongholds, and darkhold)
    2 low-mid game dungeons

    several mini content events(behest, caravan, invasions)

    and thats just a start of naming them off

    and with all we have planned to come out, in the outline, its not like it wont surpass some games that have been out a while shortly(alot of games go pretty stagnant with content implants post launch)
    uh....and tons of materia to grind of... and catalyst >.<
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    I voted no - I will not pay for a legit plevel system.
    It's nothing else but an invitation for RMT.
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  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackDaniels View Post
    This poll is grosely innacurate. I'd like to point out that maybe one fifth of people who own this game (still playing or not) actually use the official forums ever. And I bet the percentage of people among those who dont use these forums who are willing to pay is substantially lower.
    Havent found the exit door yet jack?
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakeru View Post
    I voted no - I will not pay for a legit plevel system.
    It's nothing else but an invitation for RMT.
    LOL you have no idea what they did this last patch i see

  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aion View Post
    Havent found the exit door yet jack?
    Is it next to my boots that are going to kick you in the teeth? Sorry for pointing out something that is blatantly obvious.
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  8. #128
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    I will be happily paying for this game in November/December.. and this is why:

    (1) Yoshi P has done a miracle job in terms of changing the development culture of FFXIV. We went from no communication with Tanaka to full blown monthly letters, a forums where are suggestions are read/considered/implemented, etc.

    (2) The last two patches (1.18 and 1.19) show me Yoshi and his team know what they're doing. In 1.18 some people could not log on for hours after the patch was released. In 1.19, I don't know of anyone in our shell that had an issue. Servers were stable and content was ready to go. They learned from their mistakes from the previous patch and provided flawless implementation of the next one.

    (3) It is unreasonably for people to think a game that is made on a pay to play model, with 250 development team members to operate at a negative financial (loss) for 2 years. We've had the game for free (monhtly sub at least) for an entire year. Now that I see what has been done, and what they plan on doing, I am HAPPY to pay the sub at this point. I want to financially contribute to make this game exactly what they have laid out in today's announcements. It's like buying stock in a company that you believe in. If 1.18 and 1.19 were good faith down payments by Yoshi-P to regain our trust, then let me return the favor by paying a monthly fee. And this isn't some vague plan, i've never seen this amount of detail on WHAT is coming and WHEN it's coming.

    (4) Why is it worth to pay at this point instead of waiting for 2.0? After all, we're all just "glorified beta testers" right? am i right? Wrong! I am having a BLAST in game. There is always something to do (ifrit, spiritbinding gear for better materia, new company quests, more story development, etc etc.) Knowing that the advanced classes will be story based progression (quest rewards rather than xp), by having multiple R50s by the time 1.21 and 2.0 role out, I will have access to a huge variety of content. Each class has its own multiple quests and rewards to get, just like FFXI (I loved AF armor and the quests that went along with it).

    Those are just my personal reasons why I have no problem paying the fee. It also has to do with the fact that I got more excitement from reading the new vision of the game and seeing the revamped screenshots then I did beta testing SWTOR. Let's just say an hours worth of SWTOR failed to "capture my attention" for more than that amount of time.
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    Last edited by Zell; 10-15-2011 at 02:01 AM.

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    Let me say that I understand WHY they have to start charging soon for XIV, I don't believe XI is making them as much right now as they hoped it would. I appreciate Yoshida's team and their extreme hard work to fix this mess that was FFXIV at launch, I look forward to 2.0 when it gets here.

    With all of that being said there is just no way I am going to pay for the game in its current state, it would be one thing if 2.0 was 2 to 3 months out but over a year or so out? not a chance in hell especially with game releases on the horizon like Diablo III early 2012.

    I just don't see enough here, I just don't think the game is worth paying for(yet).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burn View Post
    Let me say that I understand WHY they have to start charging soon for XIV, I don't believe XI is making them as much right now as they hoped it would. I appreciate Yoshida's team and their extreme hard work to fix this mess that was FFXIV at launch, I look forward to 2.0 when it gets here.

    With all of that being said there is just no way I am going to pay for the game in its current state, it would be one thing if 2.0 was 2 to 3 months out but over a year or so out? not a chance in hell especially with game releases on the horizon like Diablo III early 2012.

    I just don't see enough here, I just don't think the game is worth paying for(yet).
    I agree. FF14 in a year when version 2.0 comes out, is gonna be something out of this world! But I don't think many of us can stay another year, waiting for it's release.
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