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[darkstarpoet1]

Adding to this, even for those who don't agree with the p2p, February will have a lot of the basic features. I mean, we can always come back when we feel it's worth paying for.

the p2p isn't the issue. it's going p2p before being release ready that is. if the game was up to the standards i expect out of a game upon release i would be glad to pay full price for it now. i just don't see how anyone paying full price for half a game is setting a good example for the future of the game or the company.

to me it would have been better accepted from day 1 charging than it is now. day 1 they stated the game is in bad shape and due to the bad responses they were going to make it f2p until it was up to their standards. just within the last month or so wada states this game was so bad that it is undergoing a complete overhaul and has actually hurt the franchise and yoshi stated the game was only 50% complete. does that seem like a good representation of what up to their standards is?

[feint2021]

the p2p isn't the issue. it's going p2p before being release ready that is. if the game was up to the standards i expect out of a game upon release i would be glad to pay full price for it now. i just don't see how anyone paying full price for half a game is setting a good example for the future of the game or the company.

to me it would have been better accepted from day 1 charging than it is now. day 1 they stated the game is in bad shape and due to the bad responses they were going to make it f2p until it was up to their standards. just within the last month or so wada states this game was so bad that it is undergoing a complete overhaul and has actually hurt the franchise and yoshi stated the game was only 50% complete. does that seem like a good representation of what up to their standards is?

As much as I agree with you, going another year without any revenue will hurt the company. I think they are relying on the ps3 release to make up the loss of players in the upcoming month. It's really at a business stand point and they feel this the way to go.

And to answer your question...No I don't feel this is a good way for them to represent themselves.

[darkstarpoet1]

As much as I agree with you, going another year without any revenue will hurt the company. I think they are relying on the ps3 release to make up the loss of players in the upcoming month. It's really at a business stand point and they feel this the way to go.

And to answer your question...No I don't feel this is a good way for them to represent themselves.

no i wasn't wanting another year. i was just stating that there are core basics i expect in a game when i play it on release and expect to be charged for doing so.

the core basics of a mmo to me are

1. in game community such as tutorials for new players, ability to manage linkshells/guilds/squads/clan, ability to transfer items with ease.

2. a stable server that does not have massive lag spikes and where actions are not multiple seconds behind where they are registered.

3. a completed battle system. i know in mmo's they are always changing and will be tweaked, but when we undergo a full transformation like we have undertaken those changes need to be complete to judge the 2 systems completely.

4. not partial fixes. if the battle system needed to be redone finish it and implement it at one time. crafting changes new recipes, training manuals, guild support, materia was all added while materials were removed in one patch, but the changes to the hq process along with multiple other crafts are still not in place.

there has been work done on each of the areas i consider core features, but none of those have been completed as of yet. i'm not saying we should wait to pay until 2.0, but i just feel these 4 things need to be completely fixed before they expect us to pay.

[Bobjohnson]

reduced fee will be good. personally I recommend people to look when February comes, I think that the timeframe when all basic things are done

Yeah, it'd be nice if it were a reduced fee since we'll be paying to play an incomplete game (what is basically a beta!).

[Rankin]

Sorry with BF3 coming out and I currently play (and pay) EvE Online there is no way I will even think about paying for a unfinished game. I hardly get on as it is not why would I want to pay $15 to watch it sit on my HDD? added to the fact I totally despise Click and Buy. I guess I'll just check back in a year and MABEY if SE isn't bluffing and FF14 is still afloat (Fabul is almost always a dead server) I decide on weather or not to pay for this game

[Bobjohnson]

Well, seeing as how the current content and story lines won't be playable anymore once v2.0 launches, I'll be paying just to play the current content being added.

I want to play the story that effects the course of the world in v2.0. I love the lore so it's worth it for me.

[PaperTiger]

I won't consider paying until after 2.0. So far, it seems like yoshi-p's team is just doing sidegrades. The game is still fairly wretched, it simply sucks in different ways now.

like 2 dungeons were added, but leves were destroyed. materia system is cool, but all my gear is being deleted. Thanks! You hose my jade hora +2 i bought the day before the item announcements and then tell me I get to pay you more REAL money for the pleasure.

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[Nayt]

Definite yes. What they have already delivered and that which is promised is impressive enough to make me giddy with excitement.

[Wynn]

If they don't start bringing in money for this game it won't be around next year to be up to your standards. If you are so unhappy about it, go away, the rest of us will pay and support the game so that you can enjoy it next year.

[viion]

I'm quite surprised 2/3rds will pay but its defiantly good to see yes favoring.

I still think its a bad idea, if the game was about 4 times more popular maybe, but with the amount of peeps playing losing 33% is a lot.