[dev1020] Party system changes. The maximum party size.

[Aramil]

Since the third producer letter, the reduction of the maximum party size have been include in the planned modifications. While initially I wasn't pleased with the reduction since 15 players party are great when it come to NMs or linshell events like guildleves run, I do understand that 8 people is a correct number for most of the stuff. Also, up to now I was hoping for 8 to be the normal size and for the possible inclusion of an alliance system for specific events like NMs or maybe dungeon or instances if those are added. That was until I read the ffxivcore interview today.

Once parties are limited to a max of 8 players, any thoughts on an alliance system that will allow multiple parties to join up together as one large party to take on really big mobs?

In the past the communities that were playing each game were a lot bigger, and so you could have a lot of people there. And now that the community sizes are smaller, we want to concentrate a little bit more on smaller party sizes, and so starting off with regular content that you can do with 4 players--making that our base. Then making bigger type of battles that you need to think about, "Ok how are we going to defeat this," and make that the 8-player party.

The 8-player party is currently what you would think of as an 'Alliance' with normal parties being 4. Then once we have enough content to support that, we'll start considering adding content that requires more players. Right now it's 4 and 8, that's what we're aiming for.

After reading this it seem clear that you're intending 4 member party to be the normal size and 8 to be the size when a bigger group is needed. I really hope this will be reconsidered since honestly 8 people max seem a bit small to be consider an alliance. Maybe it's just because I'm used to the 15 players party but I'd prefer 8 as normal size and 15 as alliance to 4 and 8. In the interview it's mentioned that the community size are smaller but with linkshell maximum size being 128 and if the party search feature would be improve, I have no doubt that reaching 8 people for normal parties wouldn't be too hard.

So that's my opinion on the subject and I hope others will share it.

[linafanboy]

As long as we never see those 15 man rape squad SP party again I will be more than happy.

[Nephera]

I will miss 15 person parties, I'm hoping they'll add some content where 15 people get a decent challenge, but i'll admit they're kind of overpowered atm.

[Feldt]

As long as we never see those 15 man rape squad SP party again I will be more than happy.

Personally in my opinion i liked the bigger - the better parties and when people still used party search feature etc. i was very often making parties around 10~15. And i even though they would in short time expand the limit to parties of 25 and more but i guess they are going the other way. Well I will see how it will play and will it come to my liking.

And btw. i forgot, tbh it was quiet rare when i was in small party... one time or two i experienced 2~4 man party (including myself) but usually i was in parties of 7~12 and i liked when another player joined and we ware having 13,14,15 :3

[Colino]

As long as we never see those 15 man rape squad SP party again I will be more than happy.

Completely agreed. We also won't have to spend insane amounts of time waiting to get to 15 because the content requires it. I think 8 man parties are fine. Easier to group, easier to manage and just more fun than the insane 15 person zergfests where you barely have time to pull your weapon out.

[God]

Completely agreed. We also won't have to spend insane amounts of time waiting to get to 15 because the content requires it. I think 8 man parties are fine. Easier to group, easier to manage and just more fun than the insane 15 person zergfests where you barely have time to pull your weapon out.

Stop with the retarded comments nothing ever stopped you from partying with under 15 people. 15 is/was the max NOT the required. Want a 3-4-8 man group THEN WHY NOT JUST MAKE ONE.

8 people means more crap leves that dont have enough links to make them worth while. Simple fact is More people ment FASTER SP.

[Colino]

8 people means more crap leves that dont have enough links to make them worth while. Simple fact is More people ment FASTER SP.

You do realize that's the whole point of changing the party limit right?

[God]

You do realize that's the whole point of changing the party limit right?

You do realize this is why players whom have this affect them most are upset right?

Nothing stopped people from only forming parties of 6 so they can get slower SP. Hell want a 'challange' like everyone bitches about larger parties; up the stars to 5 and go to town with your smaller group.

[viion]

I find 8 to be stupid as well, whoever thinks its hard finding people for events clearly has no clue. In my LS we are sometimes way over packed for events by far so by reducing it down to 8 will make like 15+ people are sitting around not being able to join and have to go do something else.

[Kurokikaze]

Cant design encounters where you need 15+ people to attend with the state of the game. There just aren't that many of us left to do that content. 4 and 8 man content for now then after the game is up to par with current MMO standards they will have their welcome back campaign and release some bigger alliance stuffs.

Right now it's just not feasible.

My LS had 64 people from FFXI (old LSmates and their friends) 2 weeks after release. Now we're lucky to see even 10 online at any given time.