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    Player
    Urthdigger's Avatar
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 100
    So, check. Making a note to drop if I ever see you in my party again.
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    Nico Nico
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    Goblin
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by DenebPunkin View Post
    Sure we have cleric stance... but let healers utilise Int like tanks utilize Str.. and Mages utilise Mnd in the same manner =D.

    I actually tried this and went full Int in a dungie.. and boy my deeps was thru the roof.. and NO cleric stance dancing. It was pretty great.

    Come on SE... get on it.
    Did you mean combining INT and MND to one single state?
    Then CS can be removed, BLM can cure the same or more than a WHM etc? ^^;
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    Lastelli Sungsem
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    Not sure if this is a joke or a serious question.
    Just read the Cleric Stance tooltip carefully. Tanks would kill to have an equivalent that swaps vit into str...at least until devs make the changes they promised about tanks' dps calculations in 3.2
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    Baradaeg Ryssbhirwyn
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    Lich
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Okay, i got the bait
    The INT build would be for healers who wants to do "meaningful" damage and can't/won't foresight the fight for just a few seconds for a save stance dance or can't adept to stance dancing at all.
    In conclusion it's better to train stance dance and stop for betting for more and easier damage for healers. After all healers are the most specialized support at all.
    The main task of a healer is mitigating damage at all, if there is no damage to mitigate they can do damage at all, it's just fine they support with EXTRA damage at all but never forget your main task.

    In the case someone is curiouse about the mitigation of damage, every damm warrior give the argument he mitigate damge through selfheal, so healing is just mitigating damage at all.
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    Saito Hikari
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    Sargatanas
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    Bard Lv 100
    For about an hour after I managed to become a Scholar, I thought I was being a smartass by gearing for full INT so that I could reverse Cleric Stance and heal more through that way, since my Scholar initially had more natural INT than MND at the level 30-40 range.

    I then got the good sense to read the actual skill description more closely.
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    Baradaeg Ryssbhirwyn
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Okay, now it's enough. Come on now, we all go back under our bridges now, before some newbe will show up and get this in the wrong way.
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    there actually IS gear in the game with mnd AND int. but it's only ilvl 160. http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/4551a07ab65/

    there is a full set you can get from pvp achievments. and because of ilvl sync you can use it in pvp and all the content below lvl 60.

    why did they disable cleric in pvp... ^^?
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    Last edited by Tint; 11-19-2015 at 10:55 PM.

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    Sora Kysuke
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    Adamantoise
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    why did they disable cleric in pvp... ^^?
    Because SCH and WHM were very OP with it. A party of 3+ WHM could decimate an entire alliance with Holy spam.

    If anyone were smart enough to invest in Purity, SCH, owned at one on one combat with a fairy healing though 80% of the damage.
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    Karuru Karu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blessedbythesun View Post
    Because SCH and WHM were very OP with it. A party of 3+ WHM could decimate an entire alliance with Holy spam.

    If anyone were smart enough to invest in Purity, SCH, owned at one on one combat with a fairy healing though 80% of the damage.
    i know why they removed it. 8 whms holy spam ftw xD but now we have this gear with INT which healer can wear. so okay, you lose the 10% dmg buff from cleric and all the substats like det and crit. but still: there is INT on the gear Oo
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    Sora Kysuke
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    i know why they removed it. 8 whms holy spam ftw xD but now we have this gear with INT which healer can wear. so okay, you lose the 10% dmg buff from cleric and all the substats like det and crit. but still: there is INT on the gear Oo
    To be honest, INT gear is lost on healers outside of PVP and I have longed for INT equipment specifically for PVP.
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