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    Xbox support was never planned and hopefully never will be. One console is problematic enough.
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    I dislike the official translation even more.

    All it says to me is "We've decided to throw out 90% of what is to be an FF game and instead opted to copy WoW. Oh, and by the way you're paying for all of these things before they're implemented. What? The flop that was FFXIV a year ago? Don't worry about it! You can trust us. This will be awesome!!"

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    lamesauce SE...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anapingofness View Post
    I dislike the official translation even more.

    All it says to me is "We've decided to throw out 90% of what is to be an FF game and instead opted to copy WoW. Oh, and by the way you're paying for all of these things before they're implemented. What? The flop that was FFXIV a year ago? Don't worry about it! You can trust us. This will be awesome!!"

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anapingofness View Post
    I dislike the official translation even more.

    All it says to me is "We've decided to throw out 90% of what is to be an FF game and instead opted to copy WoW. Oh, and by the way you're paying for all of these things before they're implemented. What? The flop that was FFXIV a year ago? Don't worry about it! You can trust us. This will be awesome!!"

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    Comments like this are what is "lamesauce." They aren't taking out everything that makes it final fantasy, unless you're a firm believer that bad UIs, videocard-melting graphics systems, dysfunctional mechanics, and clunky movement are what makes "final fantasy."

    The reason why stuff gets copied from WoW is because WoW did a lot of things right. WoW is hardly perfect of course- The three main things wrong with WoW are:

    Hyper overdependence on gear for stats
    Terrible, highly judgemental community (Your "Gear score" not high enough? No you can't run this dungeon with us")
    Cartoony graphical theme

    FFXIV still has none of these problems.
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    did you know is a direct scam of EQ? or most MMO players forgot about that?
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    Segregated servers are coming because the vast majority of JP are isolationist and hate playing with anyone who doesn't speak Japanese. It doesn't really seem to matter whether we like it or not; they're going to get what they want. Got any JP friends in game? Not anymore after 2.0. No matter how friendly they seem to be toward you they'll migrate to a JP only server the instant SE offers it to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikki View Post
    Segregated servers are coming because the vast majority of JP are isolationist and hate playing with anyone who doesn't speak Japanese. It doesn't really seem to matter whether we like it or not; they're going to get what they want. Got any JP friends in game? Not anymore after 2.0. No matter how friendly they seem to be toward you they'll migrate to a JP only server the instant SE offers it to them.
    Racist comments like that will get you banned around here.

    It's not really true either. They just don't like to be embarrassed, and that includes not speaking fluent English even around people with English as a second language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Racist comments like that will get you banned around here.
    Flinging accusations of racism is uncalled for. The point was to drive home to the countless people chiming in against the server segregation that this is what the JP community desperately wants and has always wanted from the day SE surprised them with foreigners on their servers in FFXI. There is nothing we can do about it, other than selfishly act like they should be forced to continue playing with us when they don't want to. If my bitterness about the subject has somehow been misconstrued as anti-JP sentiment, let me assure you that's not the message at all. It's simply an acknowledgement of the reality of the situation. If you think it's all about the language barrier, you're missing most of the picture. It's a cultural divide, not a language barrier. They mostly just don't like the way that non-JPs play the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikki View Post
    Flinging accusations of racism is uncalled for. The point was to drive home to the countless people chiming in against the server segregation that this is what the JP community desperately wants and has always wanted from the day SE surprised them with foreigners on their servers in FFXI. There is nothing we can do about it, other than selfishly act like they should be forced to continue playing with us when they don't want to. If my bitterness about the subject has somehow been misconstrued as anti-JP sentiment, let me assure you that's not the message at all. It's simply an acknowledgement of the reality of the situation. If you think it's all about the language barrier, you're missing most of the picture. It's a cultural divide, not a language barrier. They mostly just don't like the way that non-JPs play the game.
    Agreed. I don't get why stating the obvious is racism. It's not just Japanese, it's everyone. My cousin used to run a bunch of dedicated game servers from his house and his website started with DK. All of his servers also had his website in the title. DK happens to also be the country code for Denmark... In any game, it would lead to countless threats and screaming of "You're not ****ing Danish, get the **** off the server!" - "Danish only you idiots!"- and all sorts of other things. What amazed me was my cousins bonded T connection apparently was so great that people connecting from Denmark didn't experience any lag and thought the server was just a hundred or so miles away!

    But just playing with all these Danish people in all this servers, it's exactly like one person said - they weren't playing to power game and brag about their skill. They were playing for social reasons. To talk about their country, things going on, ask how things are in other parts, talk about their culture, etc. etc. I think this is a prevailing "process" in not just Japan but a lot of Europe. They weren't focused on finding game breaking mechanics or powering through, it was more just something like a relaxing dinner conversation while playing a game and laughing. So much like you said - difference in play styles, culture divide, etc. etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Racist comments like that will get you banned around here.
    What he said wasn't racist, it was stating an observable FACT, as all the "JP ONLY" seacom's in FFXI clearly shows.
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