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  1. #531
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    Discordia's Avatar
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    Mio Kuromi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    It's such a marginal number, that it doesn't matter. The revenue they gain from those who don't leave is a greater incentive.

    The people who left by now are much larger in numbers, and this sub fee won't affect them. Seriously speaking, how many of them do you see coming back before 2.0 now that it has been announced? It doesn't make any sense, with or without sub fees.

    This fee is in place for those who play the current game and are willing to pay for it. Some will leave, but we are not talking about a mass exodus here- since this game doesn't even have the playerbase for mass exodus in the first place.

    50% of people leaving the game in its current state is not the same as 50% of people leaving WoW in its current state. And even in that case Blizzard would get more revenue out of 5mil of their players paying a fee instead of 10mil paying nothing.

    In a nutshell, not all customers are equal. Especially when half the customers are blocking the company's stream of revenue from the other half of the customers altogether.
    Amen.

    My feeling is that the complainers are those that were unwilling to pay for the subscription in the first place. When they found out that there would be no monthly fees, they hopped on, knowing full well that eventually they will be charged that fee. A few months have passed and these same people will look for any excuse to not pay. Same people who also claim that any MMO game that charges a monthly subscription must be a very bad game. They'll continually bad-mouth these games and will always point to some game they've played in the past as better only because it was free-to-play.

    No one forced them to pick up a subscription-based game at gun point so not sure why they are being obnoxious about it. I mean, at the very beginning, they knew there was going to be a monthly fee, it's just that it was pushed back as a customer service courtesy because Square Enix admitted that they rushed out a game with major issues. Most of these underlying issues have been stamped out and anyone saying it's still not playable are just straight up lying.

    For the record, I purchased the Collector's Edition and have stuck around from the beginning, playing a bit of beta as well. I do think there's a lot of things that Square Enix should be working on to improve the game but that's true with ANY MMORPG today. No MMO game comes out of the gate in such a perfect state that the developers only release new dungeons and call it a day. Look at WoW, the 12 million subscription giant elephant in the room, still evolving, still changing and looks nothing like it did when it first came out. Most people have forgotten that WoW had that miserable first 3 months after launch and it took Blizzard almost a year before they sorted out most of the major problems with the game. And they still are trying to improve it. Yet people still paid and paid through that first year. I don't think anyone got a free ride for months on end, only reimbursements measured in days for fractions of their subscription for the times their server was inaccessible due to technical problems.

    But it doesn't matter what kind of logic is presented to these players, they'll continue to whine about having to pay a fee and will use that circular logic about "if the game is good, I wouldn't mind paying, but it's not" and they could use that every single time this discussion comes up until SE shuts down the last server years from now...
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  2. 10-26-2011 01:24 PM
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  4. #532
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    Synnre's Avatar
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    Lord Syn
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Will players be able to fight Beastmen for control over zone/regions. Passive content that adds global rewards for players obtaining and defending zones. Think conquest points mixed with besiege from XI.

    A Level Sync sytem for lowering team mate level to enjoy content at same rate. Higher level player loses access to abilities and traits that exeed level while in effect. AND a level Sync system for raising lower level player to team mate for sneak peak at higher level content. Lower level player's abilities and gear at limited to actual level.
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  5. #533
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    I just want to say that I don't think we should have to be paying for the game yet either. The party search option still hasn't come out. I will not pay for this game until at least that option is available. Right now to find a party you have to shout in uldah over and over which usually can take hours. Of course theres the option to play solo but whats the fun in that in an MMORPG and playing solo will get you way less exp then playing with a full party. I do not think I will be paying until 2.0 comes out. Right now its like saying closed beta is free but you have to pay for open beta. Doesn't make sense to pay for a game when they are releasing a whole new version in a year.
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  6. #534
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    If you look back at FF XI, when do you think SE should have charged ?
    From the beginning ? Zilart ? Promathia ? Why not with Wings of the Goddess ?

    Without the expansions, the game loses far more than 50% of its content, and is a whole different version.
    For me, it's just a sad excuse for people who hoped that SE never take a fee.

    Well, since a lot of content will disappear before V2.0, it's your choice to miss it...
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  7. #535
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    Munba Lunru
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    I would like to know some details about housing. Both the first implementation in february and the more complex one for the Free Companies with 2.0. Thanks.
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  8. #536
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTKashi View Post
    526 replies only three of which containing the question about Alt+Tabbing. You people need to step it up.

    So, S-E, how about that? Alt, can you tab it?
    YoshiP already said in an interview (don't remember which one) that they are going to fix it in 2.0
    I doubt anything will happen before that.
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  9. #537
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    Forra Descren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    YoshiP already said in an interview (don't remember which one) that they are going to fix it in 2.0
    I doubt anything will happen before that.
    It isn't really possible to fix it before that.

    The Alt+Tab crash issue is caused by a deep flaw in how the engine and DirectX 9 talk to each other; it'd need a total overhaul of the code to fix it - which would be completely insane in the face of their replacing the entire graphics engine come v2.0.
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  10. #538
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fensfield View Post
    It isn't really possible to fix it before that.

    The Alt+Tab crash issue is caused by a deep flaw in how the engine and DirectX 9 talk to each other; it'd need a total overhaul of the code to fix it
    Actually, it wouldn't; All they have to do is handle the exception of losing the connection to the GPU - which they didn't do, except for showing us a useless dialogue of the exception occurring. It's not that hard to fix really, so I don't know why it wasn't fixed long time ago.
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  11. 10-26-2011 09:35 PM
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  12. #539
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    Actually, it wouldn't; All they have to do is handle the exception of losing the connection to the GPU - which they didn't do, except for showing us a useless dialogue of the exception occurring. It's not that hard to fix really, so I don't know why it wasn't fixed long time ago.
    why fix something anything on the currant game? its pointless to even put effort into wasted content and obsolete software.

    SE will you buy wows old servers and use them as a tempary fix for this broken crap? that should cut the clunkyness and lag down by 70%, and give u justifiable reason to charge for this game.
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  13. #540
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    Balmung
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    Race Change

    When you introduce the new races (Male Miqo'te & Female Roegadyn), will you allow veteran player's characters' to change their races? Honestly, ive always wanted to be a Male Miqo'te and this is really exciting for me. Thank you.
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