How a Meridianum and Praetoreum run should be!

[Azazua_azura]

Its kinda stupid people keep saying CM and Prae layout was bad. I ran through it a few times, and i don't think the CS and stuff is all the long, it is a story dungeon. There is no loot. The CS are part of the dungeon, and when you que up for story mode R you agree to do those dungeons. The roulette bonuses apart from expert, are part of the mentor system in the game. You que up to help fresh players, and get rewarded for time spent. To assume you are the majority in any party, is a bit rude as well as speaking on the behalf of others.

Remember this is a final fantasy game known for its story line cs, and Yoshida stated FF14 is a final fantasy first. The only reason they changed, is too many WoW players complained. FF11 had cs in dungeons, and people had no issues letting people watch them.

What is also annoying is this whole "my time" stuff from WoW, if you don't have enough time to do something, don't. Don't treat other players poorly, puffing your chest like your time is more importent. No one person in the groups time is more importent, the 7 other players time isn't more importent then the 8ths players. Players should communicate at the start and agree on a how to run the dungeon.

Personally speaking, a first timer should be allowed to do these dungeons in full, seeing the CS and paticipating in the fights, if we treat new playes poorly they may not stick with the game. I've personally quit mmo due to poor community, Aion being 1, DCUO being another.

Also PF is a hard option to do with these dungeons, it can take hours before 1 person is willing to join up, and that is much more of a time waster then anything. I did these 2 dungeons recently, I tried to PF it, no luck. I asked my FC but most were heading to bed(it was late). My only option was to DF it, I qu'red on my War and did the best I could to see the CS and participate. I was lucky enough that 1 person waited up so i could follow the group. I got a few commi after the run as well.

As for Prae. it was a hot mess. My group was in eso gear, and ra,mming forwrd too fast, no one waited for me so i had to follow best i could remembering the layout. I even got lost alot. And due to the speed of my group, I missed large chunks of CS, at this point though i didn't care, I have beat these dungeon 5 times already. It still sucked cuz I love prae, I love the set up to fighting ultrima, fighting ultima, and fighting lahabra.

Instead of doing the "my time" arguement, take in consideration of the full group, not the 1 vs 7, but the 8 of 8. It does suck to be the 1 newbie and have 7 other players ruin your gaming experience over the sake of token/hr. Which if you consider that it does come off as selfish.


And, a bit of a tid bit, just because something can be complated fast, doesn't mean it should. And people here like to mix could and should up forcing their personal views on others.

A big help that I've been saying for weeks now is, the English community needs to really learn to communicate at the start of dungeons, express why their there and come to an agreement. Assuming and forcing your views wastes the groups time and enjoyment, and it was because of this stuff as a fresh tank, is why i switched to a JP server.