How a Meridianum and Praetoreum run should be!

[CrimsonThunder]

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Tell me, everytime you speedran CM/Prae with a new player how did it feel knowing you may have ruined someone's day just to get a daily done?

[Whiteroom]

Tell me, everytime you speedran CM/Prae with a new player how did it feel knowing you may have ruined someone's day just to get a daily done?

Not bad at all. If that ruins your day, you have bigger issues than speedrunners on your hands. To counter, but with a more reasonable and less melodramatic question. How does it feel knowing everytime you pissed and moaned about speed runs, you made multiple peoples runs worse. You can spin that to be asking if you ruined their days if the melodrama makes it sound better to you... right? Maybe I can cast great assumptions like you have slowed down every run you've been in, how does it feel knowing you have wasted thousands of peoples time?

At the same time though, at least their day wasn't ruined by having to wait two days in a queue to get in.

[Malevicton]

Tell me, everytime you speedran CM/Prae with a new player how did it feel knowing you may have ruined someone's day just to get a daily done?

Frankly the other option is never getting your queue to pop. It's not a hypothetical, that was why they added the roulette in the first place.

If it were an option between a perfect or imperfect run, then sure I guess. But that's a false option. The options are dealing with people running fast or never setting foot in the dungeon.

[Ykronix]

I'm still in the opinion that if you choose to use DF, you SHOULD be expecting new and inexperienced players joining you. And you SHOULD be accommodating, for the sole reason that they most likely have lesser alternatives than you, someone whose been playing for a good while.

In the same breath, I think Party finder should be more encouraged. When people go through the MSQ and they encounter a dungeon in order to progress, the message usually states to use DF. So honestly, the DF party would be more like a 'learning party' than anything (and in my experience, progressing through MSQ, I honestly had little to no idea PF as an alternative), and to expect otherwise is pretty selfish.

[Whiteroom]

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A little off topic, but I would also like to see the party finder pushed harder. There seems to be a large fear of using it floating around. Look at all these, "it's wrong to want experience of any kind in your pf" threads/comments. People are called elitests for it, by people crying about the lack of learning parties in it, ones that every single person who complains has the ability to make themselves.

[Eylirria]

You can view the cutscene afterwards, as many times as you want.

Without bothering anyone.

[Melondra]

"The Problem isn't the "Party Finder" Its How the Community Uses it defines weather or not it is a good exp. or not.

[Whiteroom]

Actually df if is a way of grouping people togeather in content. It makes no assumptions on how the run will be played.

Also, how easy or hard content is doesn't matter either. The simple fact is, without roulettes, you wouldn't be getting into that content via duty finder in less than hours. If forcing others to run your way is your thing PF is there for that. DF is random, so you runs will be as well.

[Alaray]

Actually df if is a way of grouping people togeather in content. It makes no assumptions on how the run will be played.

Also, how easy or hard content is doesn't matter either. The simple fact is, without roulettes, you wouldn't be getting into that content via duty finder in less than hours. If forcing others to run your way is your thing PF is there for that. DF is random, so you runs will be as well.

Because letting someone watch the cutscenes is truly disastrous to experience and gameplay when the dungeons exist for that purpose to begin with. Whereas forcing new players to skip content they want to experience rather than be spoiled on, in a story based instance and game, is totally not ruining someone's actual game experience.

[Nicobo]

...As for the people who feel people like me waste your time, do you REALLY need those daily tokens? You should expect this stuff when you sign up for MSQ Roulette. I'll tell you the same thing I told those Meridianum people...

Btw, I think most ppl running these for exp. but not for tokens.
And if the run starts like 20min before daily reset, ofcoz ppl want hurry up.
If the run starts after daily reset, I think more ppl willing to spare their time to wait.

The same player could be the best and the worst player in different runs for the same content. ^^;