why during cutscene its always like this ... (small spoiler)

[Kikoten]

Well, technically, we already did do something in a cutscene. Whether or not it was awesome is subjective -- I thought it was awesome -- but does anyone remember how it was us, and no one else, who obliterated Iggy (I keep forgetting that Ascian's name) from the fight with her and Lahabrea? She was about to warp away or reincarnate or whatever it was that the Ascians did, and it was us who threw that white aetheryte and did whatever came next (I can't remember all the details, sorry!).

I would settle for something like that in future cutscenes. It'd be easy to do on SE's part, and at the same time it'd make us look awesome. Why waste time attacking and parrying when we can use a cutscene exclusive ability that anyone, race, gender, and job, is capable of using?

[KyahAlmasy]

That's sort of the thing, even if you are the one that dealt the finishing blow on Lahabrea or the likes (solidifying that you are the warrior of the light), every other circumstance behind it (such as praetorium in general) is done with a band of people. The player character isn't doing the entirety of the encounters by themselves, but were involved, if not the most prominent figure during those encounters. It calls onto the question on just how powerful the player characters are by themselves, because at times while you are clearly leading the charge, and if not being the only one involved in some encounters, the background behind it is that you had still gathered a group of people together to accomplish such tasks.

We could ignore the handweaves at times where the story and npcs refer to you gathering a band of people together, but it still becomes a reoccuring inconsitency to the story. My point is that our player characters isn't straight up soloing everything, but are infact still can be the individual that is referred to as the warrior of light, they're not exclusive from each other. My point is also that there can be multiple people who possess the echo as well as people who are blessed/chosen by Hyadelyn, not just the player character.

You're trying to use a few off-hand small cutscenes to rationalize this theory, all of which are always tacked on at the end to usher the player on to finish the content, and yet in any cutscene where these events take place it is only ever our character that is scene in them. Whenever there's a integral cut scene with voice-acting, and true story progression our character is only ever the sole protagonist. Take for instance, "Stone Vigil" where Cid's ship was last seen, and we enter to with a small party to navigate through it, if the story truly wanted to acknowledge their presence why weren't they in the cutscene when Cid, and Alph approach the dragon, or when we encounter the Ascian? How come we escape on the Enterprise with JUST the 3 of us, and none of the previous party members?

I'll tell you again, it's called "Game mechanics." In every game, it's up to the player when to interpret whether or not game mechanics are canon. In Final Fantasy, Game mechanics are hardly ever canonical, especially when they're inconsistent with the main plot of the game. In which here they are. So you decide, which canon are you going to readily accept. the main plot which clearly states that we are the lone adventurer slaying these beasts, or the game mechanic that's directing the "player" to find a party? It's as if someone was to suggest that health bars, and the ui actually DO exist in the real world of Final Fantasy just because we see it on our screen. Honestly, it's a bit of common sense.

And lastly, Alphs sort of confirms that we are the sole warrior of light capable of these feats during the conclusion of our encounter with the derplander. He claims that he was unaware that anyone besides us were capable of taking on primals, and it would have been terrible negligence on their part had they never even heard of them. This sort of puts the nail in the coffin on this subject.

[Kio]

...and suddenly he look at you, draw hes axe !!
my character draw hes GreatSword !!
in my seat i was like !

"HELL YEAH, MY CHARACTER GONNA FIGHT HIM IN A CS, AMAZING !!!!"
i was so excited !!!

and ... nothing ...
thancred showed up, and fight them instead ....

The drama of two persons drawing weapons is probably great, except I am a summoner. It looks really silly when someone is charging me with a giant, bloody axe and I open up a book to page 24 and glare. As if I'm projecting, "If you take one more step forward I'll reveal who kills Dumbledore!" and the foe hesitates until the Scions swoop in an neutralize the situation with spoiler tags.

[KyahAlmasy]

I could have sworn that in the Prae, the opening cut scene was you flying on the airship with your party. I believe with the exception of the primal fights, the NPCs usually say "gather your comrades and go forth." Even for the primals, it's always a stretch me to think we did it by ourselves. The Company of Heros all had the Echo, so I don't think it's unreasonable to expect we'd have attracted a core group of warriors who also have the Echo, but are not associated with the Scions.

And yet, when you arrive in Prae with Cid, what does he say? "You know, a place a warrior of light would go without a thought of personal safety, oh if only one were with us." then looks at us. Well, that would certainly be an odd thing to say to our character should we have a WHOLE group of warriors of light with us, don't you think? And care to explain why we are the only visible opponent when Gaius exclaims "But the Ultima weapon is all-powerful, how does my opponent still stand?" (Note that he's speaking in the singular, "opponent" and not addressing a group of people.) Even when Lahabrea shows up he refers to our characer in the singular, for me he says "It is the blessing of light she possesses that confounds you." In any cut scene of importance we are only ever seen alone. And lastly, since we ALL beat Ultima weapon together, how come the Scions, the leader of each city state and even CID himself outside only acknowledge you, and you are the only one to escape while hitching a ride on your magitek. I guess we left the rest of the adventurer's to die with Gaius? lol And yet, the only evidence that supports this claim of a party of Warriors of light are the short tacked on dialogue boxes asking us to bring along friends? Talk about really pushing the envelope. lol


This reminds me of a tutorial you'd encounter an RPG, where a character in the game goes through how to navigate a menu, or Junction system. While there is no actual menu, or anything, it is a mechanic only included to usher and guide the character in order to help them continue through the content. Honestly, this nit-picking proves no points.

[Riardon]

The drama of two persons drawing weapons is probably great, except I am a summoner. It looks really silly when someone is charging me with a giant, bloody axe and I open up a book to page 24 and glare. As if I'm projecting, "If you take one more step forward I'll reveal who kills Dumbledore!" and the foe hesitates until the Scions swoop in an neutralize the situation with spoiler tags.

I'm dying.

[Kallera]

The drama of two persons drawing weapons is probably great, except I am a summoner. It looks really silly when someone is charging me with a giant, bloody axe and I open up a book to page 24 and glare. As if I'm projecting, "If you take one more step forward I'll reveal who kills Dumbledore!" and the foe hesitates until the Scions swoop in an neutralize the situation with spoiler tags.

I don't know, smacking him with magical dysentery,siccing a rabid carbuncle or mini titan to his face, or a painflare to his everything would've been my first idea, and im not even versed in summoner business.

Barring that, I feel the ingenuity of using a improbable parrying weapon that is the magic book is being highly understated here.

[Alleo]

Thank you KyahAlmasy you said everything that shows me that we fight alone way shorter than I did.

About the point that primals were killed before us: Its true but they also told us that this killed a lot of people because they went in with a lot of numbers and the first soldiers would always be tempered and the next row would fight these tempered one while the last people would then try to kill the primal. So yes its possible to kill it without the echo but it was quite the loss. This is why we are so special.

I don't care if we have someone that is on our level of strength or even stronger than us but please let us be able to show why we are called the warrior of light and why so many people puts their hope into us. Standing there doing nothing and even needing protection is bad. If we would have been poisoned or injured I would have understand this but we are healthy and just because we had a echo vision we suddenly cant react fast?

And about us summoners Like I wrote in my last post. We already were able to defeat knights with very deathly weapons with only Alphinaud, another book user, on our side. So no I don't take this as a argument anymore after SE showed that we were able to do this.

[Neophyte]

I don't know, smacking him with magical dysentery,siccing a rabid carbuncle or mini titan to his face, or a painflare to his everything would've been my first idea, and im not even versed in summoner business.

Barring that, I feel the ingenuity of using a improbable parrying weapon that is the magic book is being highly understated here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hzITuN4fMg#t=2m25s :yes:

[KyahAlmasy]

Also, the previous incarnations of primals were noted to be far weaker than the version we face. Even the other companies, and merc groups explain to us that the version we fought was far stronger. lol