why during cutscene its always like this ... (small spoiler)

[Gaiussenpai]

If heroes have their limits then they should not have hyped us up in the way they did at the end of 3.0.

[dinnertime]

If heroes have their limits then they should not have hyped us up in the way they did at the end of 3.0.

Even those with power "nearing or surpassing the realm of gods" or whatever have their limits. An example is Hydaelyn.

[Jonnycbad]

The issue is that Square doesn't want to control your character.

Mostly this^

Because SE doesn't know if you are RPing a pacifist WHM who only heals and never uses offensive magic, for example.

[dinnertime]

and thats the point i was making shes a whitemage but all of a sudden she get a skill that has not been seen up to this point because the plot calls for it, but yet my character cant stop a single charging war? please as a mch he should of detonated a grenade in his face.

She's not a White Mage, she's a Conjurer.
And being a Sharlayan scholar (No, not the job), she might have more knowledge on spells, maybe even lost, forbidden or even own-invented spells or whatnot.

[XgungraveX]

She's not a White Mage, she's a Conjurer.
And being a Sharlayan scholar (No, not the job), she might have more knowledge on spells, maybe even lost, forbidden or even own-invented spells or whatnot.

eh make since but im just tired my character being treated like some new adventure in which hes not. its gets real old when something mayor goes down and hes just stands there confused.

[dinnertime]

Snip.

Now that I think about it, they could've made every job have their own way to deal with situations in scenes.

But anyway, it really doesn't matter to me. We've always been involved in the story as this mighty hero, I find that people are being kind of whiny that they never look very cool in cutscenes when you look cool fighting evil things outside cutscenes, which is most of the game. I understand why people are so upset though.

[dinnertime]

eh make since but im just tired my character being treated like some new adventure in which hes not. its gets real old when something mayor goes down and hes just stands there confused.

Not really confused, more like the adventurer is a lazy bum. (Then again who isn't?)
And others protecting him/her? It's like he/she is royalty.

[KeluBehemoth]

Okay great. That's between two predetermined fighters. Predetermined race, predetermined class/job

Your character could potentially be 13 different classes. How are they supposed to orchestrate that? You're comparing apples to oranges

Pretty easily because basically ALL of the animations already exist.

Creating a basic scene of a lancer or a monk or what ever swinging their thing around without much pizazz wouldn't exactly be difficult.

[RiceisNice]

Pretty easily because basically ALL of the animations already exist.

Creating a basic scene of a lancer or a monk or what ever swinging their thing around without much pizazz wouldn't exactly be difficult.

You'd also have to consider the circumstances of the animation...like a fight for example. A warrior of dorkness isn't going to fight a lalafell warrior the same way he'd fight a roegadyn scholar, especially the intricate things like blocking with their weapon or weapon-locking (which also accounts for height differences within the same race/gender). They'd also have to take into consideration new jobs that come into the game for rewatching the cutscene, unless you don't mind rewatching the lvl 60 summoner quest and watching a CUL use deathflare.

I could have sworn that in the Prae, the opening cut scene was you flying on the airship with your party. I believe with the exception of the primal fights, the NPCs usually say "gather your comrades and go forth."

Some lead up to primal fights and trials do this too. I remember for Ifrit normal mode that after you'd get captured and instanced into a waiting room, the quest npc tells you something along the lines of escaping to gather some companions for the troubles ahead. The best explaination is that the people you'd gathered all possess the echo to resist temperment.

[Alleo]

Some lead up to primal fights and trials do this too. I remember for Ifrit normal mode that after you'd get captured and instanced into a waiting room, the quest npc tells you something along the lines of escaping to gather some companions for the troubles ahead. The best explaination is that the people you'd gathered all possess the echo to resist temperment.

I believe like others that we do fight alone a lot in the real story and that the group mechanics are most of the time only there because its a MMO. How bad would it be off the npcs that they only congratulate us for those fights if we had other people with us? Why would we be the special one if other people can be that strong too and possess the Echo? I believe that the npc outside the waiting room before Ifrits fight is only there as a in game way to be able to do something else. He is there so we would not be stuck in the room if we want to do the fight later and they gave him some sentences to make it look like he is part of the story. But it would not make sense if he truly is. (IMO) Why would one soldier be out there all alone and why did he not inform the head quarters or maybe fellow soldiers about the captured people? And at that time we had no idea that a primal can temper someone so we would not have looked for people with echo. How big was the chance that we did not only find three other adventures near the place (its not like we had that much time to go far away), that were willing to fight along side us and strong enough to do so but also possessed the echo. That would be quite unbelievable for me. And that they would not be mentioned by the scions after the fight. [And lets not look into the thing that we somehow still had our weapons and were not bound]

But lets look at Garuda. We were able to travel to her place after we went through that dungeon to get Cid´s ship. I also believe that we did this dungeon alone too. Alphinaud and Cid only worry about us which would be kinda bad if there were other people with us too, but we also leave immediately to face Garuda. We see a nice cutscene which, if I remember it right, is only with Cid, Alphinaud and us as the WoL and after that the fight starts. We could have turned away from the fight but this was also only a mechanic so that we could do something else if we did not want to fight her right away. This was not possible in the story itself.

The last two 2.0 story dungeons are a little bit more complicated. They outright tell us in a cutscene that we are the leader of the adventurers that fight there, so we did have at least some adventurers with us at the beginning but it gets a little strange towards the end. Gaius only talks with us like we are the only one there and at the end there is only one mount to get us out. The npcs outside also only worry about us and we are the only one that came out of the burning building. This could mean that we either left the group behind after some time and the dungeon itself is the part where we fight alone which would explain why they were only worried about us since the other npc adventurers would have already left the place or it would mean that we left all those other people behind to die and that the others did not care even a little bit about that..I really hope that its the first one and that we fought alone at the end because otherwise we don't really deserve to be called Warrior of LIGHT.

There are also fights where we needed to follow the enemy right away so we would not have enough time to gather other adventurers. Chrysalis comes to my mind.

The same can be said about the HW fights. We went to Ravanna with Iceheart on our side but after she lost, we fight him alone. Its the same with Bismarck. We are the only one on that isle with the Ascian woman and in the end Alphinaud also only worries about us and not anyone else. The same can be said about the fight against both Ascians. Afterwards Thordan and his knights appear and we kinda follow him to face him right after that. We had no time to get other people and in the story we also only traveled to Azys Lla with our dear npc characters. Where would we have found other adventurers with echo that are at the same level like us on a flying island which should not have been known to others?

The void arc is the only recent one that I remember where the npcs afterwards congratulate us to have those strong other adventurers on our side which are at the same time not seen...what had happened to them? Why would they leave before us?
I am not really sure why SE choose to do it that way. I know that there were some sentences from npcs like Alphinaud were they said that we should gather some other adventurers for the fight but it often does not makes sense. I just think to myself that it just a hint for us players that this will be another dungeon or trial that we fight with other players and that it should not be taken that seriously. Otherwise this would not paint a good picture of us and of the npc characters..and who would still want to fight with us, if only we get the praise for it. And in the end how can we be THE strong warrior of light if we need four or more people to fight against one single person (for example Gaius..).

We also view the cutscenes through the journey. Why would the WoL completely forget to mention all the people that fought alongside them? If SE really wanted to show us that we needed others to beat up all these opponents (even solo opponents) they could have inserted some npc characters that always appear at the end instead of player characters that fought with us. But we are always alone..

There was only one fight were other adventurers were really on our side and this was Steps of Faith. Not only did we go around and asked some NPC adventurer for help but we also saw them in the cutscene after the fight. I really liked it, because for the first time you could be 100% sure that this was not a fight that we fought alone.

Sorry for this off topic X_X just wanted to write my opinion about this..maybe one day the devs will post that we had help all the time and I have to accept that but for me this would be really bad for the WoL because we would be nothing than a person that gets all the praise even though we are just one person from a group of people. And it mean that we did not really accomplish anything alone.

Now onto the topic of this thread.

Yes I am also getting tired about my character. I know that it would be much more work for them to make a nice fighting scene with all those different races and classes but like some said why could we not at least do something else. Shove someone out of the way of a attack, defending our self somehow or maybe even have a little instanced fighting where we could show them our strength. That we, like always just stood there and did nothing was the worst way they could do that. It made me feel like at the time with Haurchefant where we stood there and did nothing to help him which in the end killed him.

We are lvl60 fighter. We had to fight a lot of harsh monsters and other opponents. And even if we somehow fought them with other people we would still need to be powerful or we would have not survived these fights or would not have been seen as the Warrior of Light. So seeing us with such a slow reaction or no reaction at all is really painful.

Someone said how we should have blocked the attack with a book but I do kinda remember a fight with Alphinaud on our side, where we fought a 2vs2 in a small arena against two battle trained knights and somehow we managed to defeat them (and yes I am a summoner so somehow I am able to defeat someone with an axe or a sword) and get away without any wounds. So please dont tell me that we cant in any way do something. Heck I am a summoner that was able to defeat some lesser Ascians on my own...[Its already bad that somehow this time the echo scene impacts us that much but at the same time it does not do the same to the WoD..]