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    SE can you explain?

    Please can you explain how people can be in queue for PvP, at the same time as someone else. They proceed to continue to get in match after match while another player sits in queue. Also the matches sometimes aren't even full, and even though you have in progress checked it doesn't put you in. BUT you could leave and requeue and get in progress? Your system is terrible. Please improve this junk.
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    Are you in different Grand Companies? If so, that may be your answer
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    No. The same.
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    Yep, this has happend to me aswell. I do PvP with a friend and we are both in the same Grand Company. We queue at the same time and he gets to PvP after waiting 15 minutes, while I had to wait 45 minutes. We tried it again, only this time as the same class and I got into PvP 3 rounds, while he was waiting around 90 minutes for his first round.

    The system is broken and I do not know how SE is planning on fixing this. I have reported this issue months ago, but I take it either SE has issues fixing this or its on the bottom of the list of things to do. I guess the only thing we can do is keep reporting it.
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    Last edited by Laerune; 11-16-2015 at 01:21 AM.

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    I'm going to guess, based on my experiences, that there are more people in queue than there is server space for pvp instances. What then happens is you're in your queue and your friends are in theirs. The queue matchup system then randomly picks pieces of teams that match up numerically for the X number of instances that are open or have become open. Means some players can sit indefinitely due to there seeming to be no priority system for who has been in queue the longest. You just get lucky, basically, but, if the right number combinations come out of a match they might match up immediately again. Seems there needs to be a priority system put in place as well as more instance space added, and this is my current thinking towards the queues in general when I have sat for 40 minutes plus trying to queue as a dps (and recently, as a healer!! healers used to be insta-queue).
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    Last edited by AeraLure; 11-16-2015 at 01:27 AM.

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    Indeed there is still problems with dead lobbies, I'd just suggest you and your friend select E language only when queueing pvp. SE will no doubt never fix this issue, we are still awaiting gc removal which with finally address the overall queueing experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AeraLure View Post
    I'm going to guess, based on my experiences, that there are more people in queue than there is server space for pvp instances. What then happens is you're in your queue and your friends are in theirs. The queue matchup system then randomly picks pieces of teams that match up numerically for the X number of instances that are open or have become open. Means some players can sit indefinitely due to there seeming to be no priority system for who has been in queue the longest. You just get lucky, basically, but, if the right number combinations come out of a match they might match up immediately again. Seems there needs to be a priority system put in place as well as more instance space added, and this is my general thinking towards the queues in general when I have sat for 40 minutes plus trying to queue as a dps (and recently, as a healer!! healers used to be insta-queue).
    It makes me wonder sometimes if the q allows for placeholders, games where I have just lleft of I instantly requeue I will get the same people again. Meanwhile friends who q before me are still waiting.

    This could just be caused by dead lobbies tho, I.E if a lobby is created with J language selected, it will only seeking people with J, JE, JD, JDE, JF, JDF, JDEF, JEF, J
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    Last edited by Stupiduglytaru; 11-16-2015 at 01:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stupiduglytaru View Post
    Indeed there is still problems with dead lobbies, I'd just suggest you and your friend select E language only when queueing pvp. SE will no doubt never fix this issue, we are still awaiting gc removal which with finally address the overall queueing experience.
    But are they going to remove the GC restriction? I remember during HW Yoshida said that the lore was too important and that it would stay, has he changed his mind?
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    We both queue as E. Somethings messed up somehow, it is especially stupid that you don't get your in progress pop when other matches are searching for players unless you requeue. That is one of the stupidest things imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    But are they going to remove the GC restriction? I remember during HW Yoshida said that the lore was too important and that it would stay, has he changed his mind?
    They did mention they are considering it recently, the only concern they had with this is the possibility of match fixing. unfortunatly i cannot provide a link, i believe a rep responsed to our gc removal thread or something.
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