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    Whiteroom's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niadissa View Post
    It may have already been said, but the easiest way to combat this, is make it to where in order to roll on the loot, you have to be with in a certain range of the chest, and have done damage to the mob that dropped it. It isn't going to stop everyone, but it would stop the people that just load in and don't do anything at all.

    Another thought, would be that the mats that people gather while a DoL could come up for a roll as well? (This way it is still a team effort, want mats, protect your DoL's). Not sure how this one would work out in the long run though.

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    I have suggested numerous times that any mats gathered should go to the loot table.


    The gatherers don't seem to consider this fair...

    For some reason they seem to think it is fair that they lot on any combat gear that drops.

    I mean, it's not like they have a bias or anything, right?...



    On a more serious note, I still like my idea of having to fight through a cave to a node, and gathering that node spawns a star rank.
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
    I have suggested numerous times that any mats gathered should go to the loot table.



    While I can tell you're being toxic and facetious, you make a valid point. Coming from someone who jumps on his Miner for the last 20 mins of every Diadem I've been in so far, I wouldn't mind if my Titanium ore etc. were loot rolled on per node, my Steel Spoils tho.. no dice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post


    While I can tell you're being toxic and facetious, you make a valid point. Coming from someone who jumps on his Miner for the last 20 mins of every Diadem I've been in so far, I wouldn't mind if my Titanium ore etc. were loot rolled on per node, my Steel Spoils tho.. no dice.
    Even here, a gatherer who agrees with the premise...
    "You can roll on it, as long as it's not the stuff I want."

    Your steel spoils are more valuble to you than a 210 piece of gear is to the battle class? All in or all out is the only fair way. Personally I prefer the "All out", as it also deters afk rollers.

    As for my "toxic" behaviour, I hardly consider posting habit critisism from someone whos posts are largely a Dazed and Confused gif and nothing more to be worthwile.
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    Last edited by Whiteroom; 11-19-2015 at 07:12 AM.

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    I'd agree, but I have yet to even get any 210 gear that didn't have god awful secondary stats.
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    Mike Fisticuffison
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    Yeah, Diadem is a little TOO good. Since it pretty much kills off the relevance of roulettes and raiding, that's all i'm reduced to in this game in terms of efficiency. In fact, i'm actually running out of things to do AGAIN. Simply going "just don't play it!" is just straight up ignoring the issue.
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    Khyan Leikas
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    diadem looks like hunts with gathering. It's awful and bad design.

    You can sit down and afk then roll all the loot doing nothing. They should add some interactions with decors and better mechanics.
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    Terros Lior
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    Diadem didn't break the game as much as Hunts did and continue to. Seriously, I don't know why Square keeps CONSISTENTLY reviving hunts as a way to get easy upgrades and catch up. Every single odd numbered patch sees the Hunts return and it's always the EXACT same system. It's really frustrating that this game kills any sense of accomplishment by making content that is SO casual friendly that requires literally no skill and gets you caught up to the best gear in the game.
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Dont forget the mount from diadem. And with tank queues being long for void ark and the entire queue being messed up for ex roulette. Diadem is the best option.
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    PF is full of Diadem on your world? Things are balanced on mine, people are doing plenty of the classic style content still.

    I saw this coming, reading how Diadem offers the best rewards, I was trying to hype people for it before the patch released so we'd have lots of groups to join on my world and I could ride that farm train to i210 random stat gear and hordes of material.

    I am surprised that they even let you choose exactly which material you want to buy -- that changes things massively. They only withheld the grade V material for craft and gather; if they didn't I'd be forced to gather there for hours to super-meld my crafting classes, so it's probably best they left those out.
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    Elisewin Kobayashi
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    The problem is again the same: diadem rewards the brainless game, because stick with a zerg and just kill everything is playing in zombie mode.
    This is disturbing? Not really to me, I don't like to farm mobs so I won't enter in Diadem unless some friend of mine ask me to join them.
    So, since I prefer to do raids or doing things that ask me to think about what I'm doing, I'll just continue doing raids and who cares about people with full pink 210.


    The only thing that disturbs me is that Diadem had the potential to be a better feature.
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