Diadem & Dismissal

[MrsFluffyButt]

Please allow us to kick party members out of groups, or make it a feature for premade groups at least.

This stops 'Leechers' who are prone to getting killed and declining all raises and others who just stay up in the air the whole time from reaping the rewards that the rest of the party work for.

Just think on it.

[Kaelah]

I've not been there yet but from what I have heard it sounds like something should be done. As long as it stays so you cannot kick during rolls I don't see why not.

[LandricFrey]

Let's keep the "vote kick" out of Diadem. Why not dissuade people from joining rather than implementing another potential form of abuse.

I propose a FATE-like contribution tracking system. If someone does little to nothing, they get little to no reward.

Just no vote kick, please!

[Tisharu]

Please allow us to kick party members out of groups, or make it a feature for premade groups at least.

This stops 'Leechers' who are prone to getting killed and declining all raises and others who just stay up in the air the whole time from reaping the rewards that the rest of the party work for.

Just think on it.

You know how much Havoc this will cause if they allow to Kick people? Especially doing it unfairly to lock people out of a 2 Hours they cannot do Diadem anymore. Not only that, someone may feel bickened or jeolous you Greed on a i210 that is not your Class or you get too many i210 = Kick.

While right now there is legitimate reason to kick and we have AFK, or people who just want to Gather. I actually take my chances then the above statement.

[Lexia]

True leechers are a problem but adding the kick feature in won't solve anything it will just cause more problems cause there are times a person needs to be kicked for this type of content it would be abused for all the wrong reasons.

[Ercapote]

I honestly don't know why they didn't implement something like fates, if they don't contribute to the fight the should not be allowed to loot, it's so unfair that some one decides to go gather meanwhile stealing all the loot we are farming... pretty unfair Imo, or if they are directly on a gathering gear they aren't allowed to roll greed on a DoW loot

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Considering that there's a big cooldown before you can start another exploration and how you can't replace lost party members, kicking might make the issues worse.

[Pence]

You know how much Havoc this will cause if they allow to Kick people? Especially doing it unfairly to lock people out of a 2 Hours they cannot do Diadem anymore. Not only that, someone may feel bickened or jeolous you Greed on a i210 that is not your Class or you get too many i210 = Kick.

While right now there is legitimate reason to kick and we have AFK, or people who just want to Gather. I actually take my chances then the above statement.

I mean, c'mon...this is boarding the doom and gloom train far too much. You could apply your scenario to anything that currently involves vote dismiss. Too many dungeon drops? Kick. Beat someone to nodes in Frontlines too many times? Dismiss.
The abuse of NOT having a vote kick is far greater then not. It was not included in the initial launch as SE believed it was not necessary, nek minit? Abuse all over the show and they added it. Obviously they learnt nothing.

[Khanscott]

Isn't leeching gear like this a reportable offense? S-E may not care about RMT, but my experience with toxic players has shown that GMs can and will go after actual people that are being an issue. They are affecting the rate things die/not contributing to kills, and the drop rate for gear via gathering does not justify a DoL needing/greeding hunt gear. Given the Diadem's nature as it stands, I would think a GM could just look at the offending player's log and remove them manually. It is stuff like this that is why I will NEVER do Diadem with a PuG.

[Felis]

I mean, c'mon...this is boarding the doom and gloom train far too much. You could apply your scenario to anything that currently involves vote dismiss. Too many dungeon drops? Kick. Beat someone to nodes in Frontlines too many times? Dismiss.

Those don't have a 2 hour cooldown the moment you enter and another people can still rejoin your party in those.
In Diadem you do not just waste 90 minutes of the kicked persons 2 hours, you also reduce your own party with every kick for the rest of time (a single kick and no LB3 anymore, as an example).