Diadem & Dismissal

[MrsFluffyButt]

Please allow us to kick party members out of groups, or make it a feature for premade groups at least.

This stops 'Leechers' who are prone to getting killed and declining all raises and others who just stay up in the air the whole time from reaping the rewards that the rest of the party work for.

Just think on it.

[Kaelah]

I've not been there yet but from what I have heard it sounds like something should be done. As long as it stays so you cannot kick during rolls I don't see why not.

[Tyrial]

I've not been there yet but from what I have heard it sounds like something should be done. As long as it stays so you cannot kick during rolls I don't see why not.

I realize this is how it works in dungeons, but if they handled it the same way in Diadem the leecher (or whoever was being removed) could hold the whole party hostage until all loot dropped by simply not rolling.

Let's keep the "vote kick" out of Diadem. Why not dissuade people from joining rather than implementing another potential form of abuse.

I propose a FATE-like contribution tracking system. If someone does little to nothing, they get little to no reward.

Just no vote kick, please!

Abuse of the Vote Kick feature is far less common than you might think. But again, this wouldn't even be a discussion if people could be civil to each other and didn't only look out for what benefits them.

[LandricFrey]

Let's keep the "vote kick" out of Diadem. Why not dissuade people from joining rather than implementing another potential form of abuse.

I propose a FATE-like contribution tracking system. If someone does little to nothing, they get little to no reward.

Just no vote kick, please!

[Tisharu]

Please allow us to kick party members out of groups, or make it a feature for premade groups at least.

This stops 'Leechers' who are prone to getting killed and declining all raises and others who just stay up in the air the whole time from reaping the rewards that the rest of the party work for.

Just think on it.

You know how much Havoc this will cause if they allow to Kick people? Especially doing it unfairly to lock people out of a 2 Hours they cannot do Diadem anymore. Not only that, someone may feel bickened or jeolous you Greed on a i210 that is not your Class or you get too many i210 = Kick.

While right now there is legitimate reason to kick and we have AFK, or people who just want to Gather. I actually take my chances then the above statement.

[Pence]

You know how much Havoc this will cause if they allow to Kick people? Especially doing it unfairly to lock people out of a 2 Hours they cannot do Diadem anymore. Not only that, someone may feel bickened or jeolous you Greed on a i210 that is not your Class or you get too many i210 = Kick.

While right now there is legitimate reason to kick and we have AFK, or people who just want to Gather. I actually take my chances then the above statement.

I mean, c'mon...this is boarding the doom and gloom train far too much. You could apply your scenario to anything that currently involves vote dismiss. Too many dungeon drops? Kick. Beat someone to nodes in Frontlines too many times? Dismiss.
The abuse of NOT having a vote kick is far greater then not. It was not included in the initial launch as SE believed it was not necessary, nek minit? Abuse all over the show and they added it. Obviously they learnt nothing.

[Felis]

I mean, c'mon...this is boarding the doom and gloom train far too much. You could apply your scenario to anything that currently involves vote dismiss. Too many dungeon drops? Kick. Beat someone to nodes in Frontlines too many times? Dismiss.

Those don't have a 2 hour cooldown the moment you enter and another people can still rejoin your party in those.
In Diadem you do not just waste 90 minutes of the kicked persons 2 hours, you also reduce your own party with every kick for the rest of time (a single kick and no LB3 anymore, as an example).

[FoxyAreku]

I still don't understand why people would want to do this in duty finder. It's so much better with FC members and friends.

[Nihility]

I still don't understand why people would want to do this in duty finder. It's so much better with FC members and friends.

in duty finder you get a lot of people that just want to go harvest items for themselves while also rolling on drops
one or two people that just "afk" and roll on drops
and a group of about 4-5 solo players that actually want to do it

It's basically just for the people that seem to not want to make friends and those that want to play abusively towards others

the selfishness of the people in the duty finder version is pretty insane. I tried it once and the guy that refused to even help kill the mobs for the aether currents, flew off to go fishing immediately, and rolled on every single battle drop eventually got a gathering chest and just flipped out when a piece of gold ore went to someone else to the point of threatening him if he doesn't return it...

[Ashkendor]

I still don't understand why people would want to do this in duty finder. It's so much better with FC members and friends.

It really is, but sometimes you just can't muster a full 8 person party.