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    Suggestion: Differentiate Playable Race's Tribes More

    I was going to necro my More Character Creation Options, Please but decided it could use it's own thread.

    Looking at the two Hyur Tribes, Midlander and Highlander, they are so physically different from one another, they even have their own separate face option and hairstyles from each other.

    Then we look at the other races...

    Every other race in the game only has a few cosmetic differences between their two tribes. Stuff like one having slit eyes, while the other doesn't, one having natural skin tones, while the other having cooler colored tones, etc.

    I know that Hyurs are the wide-spread-filler race and they need the differences to help make the world not look so repetitive but I would like to suggest that the races are given more differences between their two tribes. It could something as simple as giving them different faces and hair or more complex like giving them more different physics.

    For example, Elezen:
    The lore says that Duskwight have lived for centuries underground and have keen hearing from it, so why not make them shorter, to make traveling in underground passages easier and give them more exaggerated ears? I would also think that their eyesight would have to adapt to being in such a dark conditions, so maybe larger pupils to help capture more light.
    As for the Wildwoods, they are said to have exceptional sight, so maybe their eyes could be larger.
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    Would that be different?

    or this one?



    Can't wait to see the next race, like a rabbit.. or.. close to the same other ones..
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfAbyss View Post
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    I feel like you didn't read the OP. The OP is asking for more differences in currently existing races, not new races.

    For example, my character is Duskwight, but you can't tell that at all because, other than skin tone, there's basically no difference between a Wldwood and Duskwight.
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    All races' tribes should have been different from each other as Highlanders vs Midlanders.

    Based on lore, the Xaela females are probably the biggest disappointment. Xaela are tribes of hardy hunters, gatherers and warriors (each with different culture) yet the females are just as cute and dainty as their Raen cousins. The males could've been a bit more muscular, too.
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    I agree it would have been a lot better if they were designed with more differentiation from the start, but it's a feature that would be a lot harder to implement now after the game's been out a while and people already have established characters. For instance, taking your example of Duskwights being shorter, that might have made a good differentiation if it was established that way when the game came out, but what about players who have been playing a Duskwight for a couple years now based on the current designs and don't want their character shorter? If changing the options now, SE would have to be careful about ensuring that current options remain viable along with the new ones.

    Oh, if the next expansion brings another race, though, I'd definitely support a greater tribal difference there than we've seen in most of the existing races. Or another possibility would be a third tribe of existing races rather than a new race. That would be another place they could add more differentiation. (I'd really welcome a Miqo'te variant whose features are more cat-like.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    I agree it would have been a lot better if they were designed with more differentiation from the start, but it's a feature that would be a lot harder to implement now after the game's been out a while and people already have established characters. For instance, taking your example of Duskwights being shorter, that might have made a good differentiation if it was established that way when the game came out, but what about players who have been playing a Duskwight for a couple years now based on the current designs and don't want their character shorter? If changing the options now, SE would have to be careful about ensuring that current options remain viable along with the new ones.)
    Then just give everyone who's been playing for a month+ a free fantasia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    Then just give everyone who's been playing for a month+ a free fantasia.
    That doesn't resolve the issue of those who do NOT want to change their character to whatever plausible lore-related sttandard their character's tribe would be adopting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    I feel like you didn't read the OP. The OP is asking for more differences in currently existing races, not new races.

    For example, my character is Duskwight, but you can't tell that at all because, other than skin tone, there's basically no difference between a Wldwood and Duskwight.
    I think I clearly read it and got it.

    The only thing we can make different is how big our ears can be for example. Still, 2 female elezen would still look pretty close, and Hyur and miqo'te well.. beside the tails, which can be resized. But who wants a small tail?

    I proposed these mecha as a way to feel a bit more different than human - beast races. Even if the Bunny race would come, it still would be the same.. looking too close to each other.. just like the unisex, they want everything to blend in, instead of making us feeling unique. That's where the clothes can set us apart.. a bit..

    Eyes do not need to be big to have a better view.

    I do agree with OP, too identical. But it's been like that, and I doubt it's QoL for SE to do something about it >.<
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    It's a good idea, but If they would give each tribe their own unique physique like how it is with Midlanders and Highlanders, gear modeling comes to question.
    Instead of 7 clans to work with, 13 types of models because of gender (except Lalas because both male and female have basically the same bodies) they would work with 24 models.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ykronix View Post
    That doesn't resolve the issue of those who do NOT want to change their character to whatever plausible lore-related standard their character's tribe would be adopting.
    They could use the Fantasia to change into what they want to be then.
    As it is right now, most of the tribes are just the same thing painted differently, with maybe one or two things pasted on.
    Using the Duskwights as an example, they are literally Wildwoods with their skin painted blue or grey AND don't even have the luxury of having anything else to differentiate them, like the other races' tribes.
    With this, we could have more diversity.
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