are we ever getting a ?????

[papichulo123]

raid roulette?

[Waryax]

Probably not enough raids / 24-man raids would take forever. I don't know if any other raids would be wise to include since expert roulette / trial roulette are the hardest roulettes and they're comparatively not hard at all.

[Colorful]

Probably not enough raids / 24-man raids would take forever. I don't know if any other raids would be wise to include since expert roulette / trial roulette are the hardest roulettes and they're comparatively not hard at all.

Most of them can be cleared in 20-30 minutes with the exception of the Void Ark. They need to bring back the CT series in one way or another, and I think raid roulette is the best way to do so.

[Evangela]

CT, ST, WoD, Void Ark should be enough.

there're people who can't clear Coil 1 and Alex normal so just exclude them.

[Waryax]

Most of them can be cleared in 20-30 minutes with the exception of the Void Ark. They need to bring back the CT series in one way or another, and I think raid roulette is the best way to do so.

I meant it mostly as in you'd be sitting in the roulette queue forever if it's not just and only Void Ark.

[Colorful]

I meant it mostly as in you'd be sitting in the roulette queue forever if it's not just and only Void Ark.

Well there'd be no reason not to include the older 24 man raids, 75 Esoterics with only the older 24 man raids. That's more than enough incentive to get a lot of people queuing for the content.

[Gamer3427]

I'd very much like to see a 24 player Raid Roulette, but my concern would be how bad the people leaving situation would be if people got WoD instead of the others, as that is easily the hardest to get a decent group to clear simply due to people not caring/understanding mechanics. People already leave runs if they get a dungeon they don't like in the roulette, and that's with just relying on 3 other players, rather than 23 other players.....

I could absolutely see a 24 player raid roulette being implemented once the Void Ark series is done, but what I can't see is it working as well as we'd want.....

[papichulo123]

yeah but what about first and second coil and final coil?

[Gamer3427]

yeah but what about first and second coil and final coil?

The simple fact of the matter is that they would have to be in a specific "8 player raid" roulette. If you put both 8 player raids and 24 player raids in the same roulette, then the only ones players will get are the 8 player raids. More so, while a lot of people have cleared the 24 player raids, very few people have cleared any 8 player raids. I myself haven't gone back and cleared the coils yet due to them not offering me anything beyond a story, and the difficulty of getting a full raid group for even current content that has actual rewards. More so, I'd be surprised if the Alex NM has as many people who've cleared it as even Void Ark will have within a few weeks, simply because it's not only designed to be more challenging but also has a less rewarding loot lockout. I can say with certainty that a significant portion of the players on my friends list haven't cleared Alex NM. The bottom line is that there simply isn't enough of a clear rate on players to warrant an 8 player raid roulette, and putting those in as requirements along with the 24 player raids would simply keep the majority of the player base from unlocking that roulette, which would defeat the purpose. Again, having them in the same roulette would also make it so that the 8 player raids were more or less the only content you would get, unless you simply happened to get lucky.....

[papichulo123]

some of those 8 player raids are really fun i wish more people would like to do them