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    Proposition for Expert Roulette

    This is an idea I would like to propose to hopefully replace the current Expert Roulette as we know it and stifle some of the monotony we have been feeling with only having an option of 2 dungeons for experts per patch.

    Some friends and I have discussing the idea of changing the expert roulette that you could run still run daily. Basically you would queue you up for 1 of 3 dungeons in rotation for that week. The three dungeon options could be any of the dungeons introduced after level 50 but the mobs / bosses / rewards are scaled up to be viable to a group of level 60's. Then at the weekly reset the dungeons change to a new rotation of 3 different randomly scaled dungeons.

    This would add variety to players who are having an issue with the fact we're only getting 2 new dungeons per patch from now on. Okay, so the rotation for dungeons sucked this week, but at least they're changing next week. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the new dungeons very much but by the time 3.2 comes out we'll all hate them and never want to run them again because of having to grind them for so long (take Neverreap for example, although I wasn't a big fan anyway).

    What do you guys think? Would this or something similar help solve the issue of 2 dungeons per patch instead of 3?
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    Last edited by Kailok; 11-14-2015 at 10:32 PM.

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    Insulting people in the counter argument isn't going to change their minds. It will make them stick harder to their opinion regardless of whether or not it's right, and think less of your opinion simply because you insulted them. In essence, if you want to try and change someone's mind, come up with a well thought-out response and don't be a dick.

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    Great idea in theory, but probably very unfeasible in practice. I'll support it anyway though, anything to avoid the monotony of what was Never-Ending-Reap or The Forever Continuum in the last patch.
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    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Haha I appreciate it - I've thought a bit about how the earlier dungeons may not be viable simply because they are very introductory and the mechanics are a bit easy to deal with especially for level 60 players. It may need to be dungeons only past a certain point, perhaps only level 50 dungeons and above, but still!
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    Insulting people in the counter argument isn't going to change their minds. It will make them stick harder to their opinion regardless of whether or not it's right, and think less of your opinion simply because you insulted them. In essence, if you want to try and change someone's mind, come up with a well thought-out response and don't be a dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailok View Post
    Haha I appreciate it - I've thought a bit about how the earlier dungeons may not be viable simply because they are very introductory and the mechanics are a bit easy to deal with especially for level 60 players. It may need to be dungeons only past a certain point, perhaps only level 50 dungeons and above, but still!
    I would say only the dungeons found in Roulette: Level 50 Dungeons, Roulette: Level 60 Dungeons, and Roulette: Expert, would work. None of the dungeons in the Roulette: Levelling would work as far as I can tell.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    I agree, thinking back how many of the earlier dungeons work before 50. I can think of some that might work (like Stone Vigil perhaps, decently difficult mob packs and boss mechanics), but even if it were 50+ dungeons that's still a very high variety of dungeons to do, especially if the 3 available change on a weekly basis. Would certainly keep things from getting old too quickly, and also less need for developers to be so quick to push new dungeons out per patch which frees them up for coming out with other varieties of content for us to do.

    That's what we need - variety of things to do with our time so one type of current content doesn't get beaten down from grinding so often that people start to loathe the content altogether (again, Neverreap).
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    Insulting people in the counter argument isn't going to change their minds. It will make them stick harder to their opinion regardless of whether or not it's right, and think less of your opinion simply because you insulted them. In essence, if you want to try and change someone's mind, come up with a well thought-out response and don't be a dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailok View Post
    Edit: Also, come out with a Guildhest roulette to get people doing those again.
    But, but, there IS a Guildhest roulette......
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    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    Strangely enough, if you assume the OP is from a parallel universe, it all makes sense.
    ...
    That or they are just spouting gibberish.

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    But a level 60 tuned one? Level 50+ versions?

    Edit: I've removed the side suggestion from my original post.
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    There's just a few problems with this.

    1. It would make the current expert dungeons very hard to queue for later on, since no one would queue for them individually that often.

    2. The expert dungeons are designed to be equal in length and difficulty. Balancing dungeons would be difficult, especially since most of the dungeons you're suggesting to pull from are being up tuned.


    3. Queues may be longer since you couldn't queue for these individually since they'd be unique tuned dungeons that are only available for the week
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    I think they should do away with the Level 60 Roulette, place all 4 dungeons in there, and rename it the Expert Roulette. This way each patch two more level 60 dungeons would be added and we'd actually have something more of a roulette. Playing only the two newest dungeons over and over again for 3+ months is a little much.

    Perhaps even better would be to add the new dungeons into the Level 60 Roulette (this would build up over time each patch with two new dungeons) and to use the new quest sync method they introduced, changing EX Roulette to draw upon all dungeons in the game, such that they scale up to level 60.
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    Just remember there's no requirement to do roulettes for Esoterics, and they just increased the alternatives.
    Raids, pvp and now Diadem are all options, so nobody is actually forced to keep doing the same dungeons.
    Completing any 3 objectives in Diadem awards 40 eso, every time. Also a chance of i210 better than Eso gear, and unwanted drops can convert or exchange for materia.
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