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  1. #1
    Player
    samkitwood's Avatar
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    Atlantis Yueqiu
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    Moogle
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    Monk Lv 70

    useless scholars

    why are 90% of scholars in this game adamant on not wanting to dps? Its what your role does so do it. I main scholar n a fair amount of trust can be placed on eos/selene when it comes to general healing (tank busters and such obv not included) so why when I am tanking for example do I repeatedly see scholars thinking 'hey, that drk just used unmend n is running up to next mob, I think ill have eos use whispering dawn n then swiftcast stoneskin on him just so he's safe'. No, just no. Just because your pet is on obey doesn't mean your doing things well. On top of this when the mobs are nearly down n I'm at 70-80% hp you don't need to use lustrate ill sort myself out from there. Stick to whm if ya don't wanna dps n find a new game if ya cba or too ignorant to learn how things should be done
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    Velo'a Nharoz
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Unless you're doing cutting edge content in which the party is under geared and healer DPS is required to overcome some enrage timer that causes everyone to die, then a healer is at no obligation to assist with DPS. Not everyone is comfortable with stance-dancing and not everyone has the network connection to handle it.

    Also, WHM and AST are expected to DPS as well in cutting edge content, so your whole "Stick to whm if ya don't wanna dps" argument is invalid.

    If you don't like this, I suggest you find a different MMO to play.
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    ServerCollaps's Avatar
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    Tiger Undie
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    Alpha
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    Fisher Lv 100
    I cant understand how heals dont feel utterly useless, if they only heal

    sometimes the tank has full HP and they just do nothing for like 30 sec, use 1 heal and afk for another 30 sec

    I would feel like trash, lol
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    I cant understand how heals dont feel utterly useless, if they only heal

    sometimes the tank has full HP and they just do nothing for like 30 sec, use 1 heal and afk for another 30 sec

    I would feel like trash, lol
    This so much. Stance dancing is what makes healing fun in this game for me, I've never played a game where people think it's okay to stand there doing nothing. You should always be doing something to benefit your group-this goes for every team-based game out there.
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    Marcellus_Cassius's Avatar
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    Marcellus Cassius
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    Hyperion
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    I cant understand how heals dont feel utterly useless, if they only heal

    sometimes the tank has full HP and they just do nothing for like 30 sec, use 1 heal and afk for another 30 sec

    I would feel like trash, lol
    Well I don't feel like trash when nothing is going on. Healing has pauses like that followed by intense moments where quick and sound judgment is necessary and if executed correctly can be very rewarding. If a healer misses a step, game over.
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    Jican Marquees
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    Ultros
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    I cant understand how heals dont feel utterly useless, if they only heal

    sometimes the tank has full HP and they just do nothing for like 30 sec, use 1 heal and afk for another 30 sec

    I would feel like trash, lol
    If you afked as a healer for 30 seconds, there would be nothing to come back to. There isn't a single instance in HW content that you can go afk for 30 whole seconds and not have someone die if you're actively fighting something. Low level, sure, you can put the tank on follow and leave until the dungeon is cleared. I know you're just blowing smoke out your arse, but a healer's job makes the party succeed, just like any other role in the group. Same with OP, if you're not actively trying to assist other people in doing a better job, then it's YOU who should feel like trash. Try and help people be better without sounding like you're hot stuff before coming to the forums to belittle people.
    (1)

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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    I cant understand how heals dont feel utterly useless, if they only heal

    sometimes the tank has full HP and they just do nothing for like 30 sec, use 1 heal and afk for another 30 sec

    I would feel like trash, lol
    If I afk'd for 30 seconds, I'd come back to finding myself kicked out of the dungeon. The act of simply getting out of my chair and walking to my room door, which is all of 5 seconds, would result in 1 person dead. If we had 30 seconds of freedom to do anything, THAT WOULD BE AMAZING. You can't be a lax healer, though unfortunately they exist.
    (1)

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    Jayem Eff
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    Hyperion
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    Dark Knight Lv 55
    If a tank were to gain hate, then stop attacking till they needed to regain it wouldn't you view them as being lazy? It's the same with healers who just top off the tank and stand there doing nothing.
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    Player LeeraSorlan's Avatar
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    Leera Katz
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdude View Post
    If a tank were to gain hate, then stop attacking till they needed to regain it wouldn't you view them as being lazy? It's the same with healers who just top off the tank and stand there doing nothing.
    This is a poor example.If a tank needs to regain hate that means theyve lost it, at which point you failed your primary role, which is to tank.


    A healer not dpsing is not failing the primary role they have.


    As was said before, unless content demands tanks or healers to dps, then it is completely optional
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