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  1. #11
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    "bio - your lungs are failing causing damage over time"
    "miasma - Contagions are spreading, causing damage over time."
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  2. #12
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    "bio - your lungs are failing causing damage over time"
    "miasma - Contagions are spreading, causing damage over time."
    ....and where exactly are you "quoting" these descriptions from? Bio's description just says that it deals unaspected damage over time.
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  3. #13
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    Anony Moose
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstride View Post
    ....and where exactly are you "quoting" these descriptions from? Bio's description just says that it deals unaspected damage over time.
    They're from the status effects when you're afflicted with them instead of using them.
    Though, I suspect one is backwards. The descriptions of Bio and Miasma II match, ditto Miasma and Bio II.
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  4. #14
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    They're from the status effects when you're afflicted with them instead of using them.
    Though, I suspect one is backwards. The descriptions of Bio and Miasma II match, ditto Miasma and Bio II.
    Ah, ok. I don't think I've ever actually looked at the description of the status itself.
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  5. #15
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    Zohar Lahar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Does DRK get any 'spells'? PLD's Clemency is a non-elemental.
    Unmend and Abyssal Drain
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  6. #16
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    Sak-e Pota
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Does DRK get any 'spells'? PLD's Clemency is a non-elemental.
    DRK has no spells, at least none like Clemency with a castbar.
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  7. #17
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    Aurora Aura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Annana View Post
    DRK has no spells, at least none like Clemency with a castbar.
    I define a spell as something that needs MP to use, the cast bar is irrelevant to that denifiting as Scathe and Arero have mo cast bar and certain weaponskill gain a cast bar in certain circumstances

    Speaking of whuch I define weapon skills as skills requiring TP, both must also be on he Global Cooldown to count as their respective catogories.
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  8. #18
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    Galyn Dotharl
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    I define a spell as something that needs MP to use, the cast bar is irrelevant to that denifiting as Scathe and Arero have mo cast bar and certain weaponskill gain a cast bar in certain circumstances

    Speaking of whuch I define weapon skills as skills requiring TP, both must also be on he Global Cooldown to count as their respective catogories.
    Agreed. That would be like saying that Ruin II isn't a spell simply because it's an instant cast. It costs mana, and is therefor a spell.
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  9. #19
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    Nhai Tayuun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    the spells you're mentioning aren't summoner-based, they're arcanist-based. These are the spells taught to present-day Lominsan arcanists based on what manuals survive from past users of arcanima-like magicks (especially from Nym and the isles of the south) and the zeitgeist of contemporary research.
    I haven't quite finished the SCH jobquest, but from what I learned so far, the war back then between the 3 big cities of magic was partially waged by inflicting each other with curses and illnesses, and that's pretty much also what made Nym fall in the end.
    So I think it's safe to assume that this kind of warfare was just the norm back then and it transfered over into today's arcanist's knowledge base.
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    I define a spell as something that needs MP to use, the cast bar is irrelevant to that denifiting as Scathe and Arero have mo cast bar and certain weaponskill gain a cast bar in certain circumstances

    Speaking of whuch I define weapon skills as skills requiring TP, both must also be on he Global Cooldown to count as their respective catogories.
    I was thinking of casting auras to define what "element" the spell is. Clemency uses the rainbow "unaspected" aura, cure uses the "wind" aura, etc. Wasn't trying to imply that they aren't actually spells.

    Mostly because that's what were were talking about previously.
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