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    SecretCrowds's Avatar
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    Cerys Fairbairn
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    Yoshida on Patch 3.2 Content - Famitsu Translation

    http://www.famitsu.com/news/201602/15099357.html

    https://www.bluegartr.com/forums/121...nd-Information

    Credits to Slycer for translating it. I am only sharing here.

    Highlights from interview:

    BLM: Astral Fire/ Umbral Ice is now applied when the cast ends, instead of when the spell hits.

    Tanks: Leveling the playing field between tanks when switching between stances. Upward adjustments to jobs that did not reach assumed numerical values. No nerfs to any tanks, not even Fell Cleave.

    However,
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    From : http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/221/1221731/

    ――ちなみに、パッチ3.15時点で全アクセサリをSTRにした場合の攻撃力と、パッチ3.2以降に同じILでアクセサリをVITにした場合の攻撃力では、どちらのほうが強くなりますか?

    By the way, comparing the offensive strength of equipping full STR accessories in Patch 3.15, with the offensive strength of equipping full VIT accessories of the same ILvl in Patch 3.2 and beyond; which will be stronger?

    パッチ3.2ではタンクがコンテンツで占める与ダメージの割合を下げました。IL210装備をSTRアクセサリからすべてVITアクセサリに置き換えたしても、今と同じ与ダメージは出なくて、相対的にタンクが出せる頂点のダメージが減っています。

    とはいえ、極端には下げてはいないですし、これからILはまた上がっていきますので強くなっていく感触は得られると思いますが、厳密に計算すると伸び代が抑えられています。ですので、あまり難しく考えずに主力パラメータは、全てVITにしちゃってください。

    Yoshida: In Patch 3.2, the damage that Tanks can deal in duties will comparatively be decreased. Even if you switch from full i210 STR accessories to full VIT accessories, you will not be able to deal as much damage as you can now, the maximum of what Tanks are able to deal will be lowered.

    Having said that, the decrease will not be extreme and ILvls will continue to rise, so I think you will still be able to feel like you are becoming stronger. We have reduced the need for complicated calculations. Therefore, you don't need to think too much about the stats, please focus on full VIT.
    So, to sum it up regarding Tank dps,

    Quote Originally Posted by SecretCrowds View Post
    There are no nerfs to skills BUT there is a blanket nerf on all tanks due to the change in damage stat from str to vit.

    However, some skills are having their damage increased, though they did not state which skill and which class. I am assuming it's PLD though.


    Bards: Warden's Paean will have the same effect as Esuna, on top of current effect.

    No new type of scrip.

    Stone, Sky, Sea will have corresponding battle content once that content is unlocked. This includes raids.



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    Last edited by SecretCrowds; 02-18-2016 at 08:30 PM.

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    That Tome Gear is actually Alexander gear, right? The Eikonic is the tome gear.
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    They said WAR Fell Cleave doesn't get nerf too (Correct me if I'm wrong)
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    Mirn Armaya
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    From : http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/221/1221731/

    ――ちなみに、パッチ3.15時点で全アクセサリをSTRにした場合の攻撃力と、パッチ3.2以降に同じILでアクセサリをVITにした場合の攻撃力では、どちらのほうが強くなりますか?

    By the way, comparing the offensive strength of equipping full STR accessories in Patch 3.15, with the offensive strength of equipping full VIT accessories of the same ILvl in Patch 3.2 and beyond; which will be stronger?

    パッチ3.2ではタンクがコンテンツで占める与ダメージの割合を下げました。IL210装備をSTRアクセサリからすべてVITアクセサリに置き換えたしても、今と同じ与ダメージは出なくて、相対的にタンクが出せる頂点のダメージが減っています。

    とはいえ、極端には下げてはいないですし、これからILはまた上がっていきますので強くなっていく感触は得られると思いますが、厳密に計算すると伸び代が抑えられています。ですので、あまり難しく考えずに主力パラメータは、全てVITにしちゃってください。

    Yoshida: In Patch 3.2, the damage that Tanks can deal in duties will comparatively be decreased. Even if you switch from full i210 STR accessories to full VIT accessories, you will not be able to deal as much damage as you can now, the maximum of what Tanks are able to deal will be lowered.

    Having said that, the decrease will not be extreme and ILvls will continue to rise, so I think you will still be able to feel like you are becoming stronger. We have reduced the need for complicated calculations. Therefore, you don't need to think too much about the stats, please focus on full VIT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    Yoshida: In Patch 3.2, the damage that Tanks can deal in duties will comparatively be decreased. Even if you switch from full i210 STR accessories to full VIT accessories, you will not be able to deal as much damage as you can now, the maximum of what Tanks are able to deal will be lowered.

    Having said that, the decrease will not be extreme and ILvls will continue to rise, so I think you will still be able to feel like you are becoming stronger. We have reduced the need for complicated calculations. Therefore, you don't need to think too much about the stats, please focus on full VIT.
    I'm not even a tank and this feels like a slap in the face. So essentially they switched strength to vitality so tanks have to have more hp AND less DPS? So they are pretty much telling tanks that they can't DPS anymore because they weren't supposed to in the first place? ... Wow. o_o
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyVal View Post
    I'm not even a tank and this feels like a slap in the face. So essentially they switched strength to vitality so tanks have to have more hp AND less DPS? So they are pretty much telling tanks that they can't DPS anymore because they weren't supposed to in the first place? ... Wow. o_o
    Doing less DPS doesn't mean you can't DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Doing less DPS doesn't mean you can't DPS.
    This, and perhaps DPS needs to step up their game so Healers and Tanks can stop carrying them in casual faceroll content. I'm sick of running roulettes with pugs who do less DPS than my scholar and my husbands tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hundred View Post
    These forums are so melodramatic I feel like I'm watching a latin soap opera.
    Any moment now it will be revealed that WHM is cheating on SCH with MNK after having had DRG's baby and DRG is WHM's cousin who is already married to PLD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Youkulm View Post
    This, and perhaps DPS needs to step up their game so Healers and Tanks can stop carrying them in casual faceroll content. I'm sick of running roulettes with pugs who do less DPS than my scholar and my husbands tank.
    10/10...

    I have the feeling I'm doing the most awesome carries ever told when I go either healer or tank... Too sad to hear I won't be able to carry the group now as tank, you know. Doing the same or more DPS than the proper DPS, being healer or tank is a huge advantage to speedrun things even in DF.
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    OLD signature is OLD... Meh, too nostalgic to change anyways.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Youkulm View Post
    This, and perhaps DPS needs to step up their game so Healers and Tanks can stop carrying them in casual faceroll content. I'm sick of running roulettes with pugs who do less DPS than my scholar and my husbands tank.
    All this nerf succeeds in doing is making me avoid DFing on my tanks and just cap with premades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Youkulm View Post
    This, and perhaps DPS needs to step up their game so Healers and Tanks can stop carrying them in casual faceroll content. I'm sick of running roulettes with pugs who do less DPS than my scholar and my husbands tank.
    When I run WHM I have terrible tanks. When I run Bard and use Foe, the WHM jumps around. When I tank, my dps doesn't Aoe on big pulls. Bad players will be bad, that goes without saying. The current stigma on why healers and tanks need to dps heavily is because of Savage, nothing more. The DPS race in dungeons will always be there, so long as speed runs exist. So keep pumping out as much as you can as your healer, because that meta will never change (in dungeons).
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