Any reason for Diadem (Easy)?

[Luvbunny]

That's the problem with Diadem... Some people want to kill monsters for gears. They should be able to do a Duty Finder with people who ONLY wants to do that, without being forced to deal with people who only want to do gathering. By making Diadem Easy to be one solely for gatherers and with more gathering objectives, SE can give everyone OPTIONS. I can go for Diadem Normal for monster + gear hunting, or Diadem Easy which should be only for gatherer. Do you know how hard it is to fill party finder at off peak hours??? No one should be forced to rely on party finder at all times. Nor they should have to deal with those lone wolves who give no rat ass of what the majority of your group wants. At the same time, if you only want to gather, why should you not be able to duty finder it with others who also want to do the same thing only.

By changing the Diadem, making Easy focusing on tons of gathering objectives, it will give everyone a chance to do the activities of their choosing. Those group of gatherers only could also help spawn other higher tier mobs, and let the "fight only" group take care of them - which they also help clearing monsters in the island for gatherer groups to gather more. No need to cluster chuck everyone in one big hot tranny mess of a duty finder. Just separate them, period.

[Nadirah]

Uh do you not like gatherers for some reason?
Half the time people don't even say anything... one line of "hey can you help me kill this monster?" and I'll stop gathering and help out. Don't assume everyone wants to kill all the monsters all the time.

And this is the primary reason I'm avoiding Diadem.

I don't want to babysit gatherers.

[CGMidlander]

I don't understand why they made Stealth ineffective against the Diadem mobs.

[Luvbunny]

I don't understand why they made Stealth ineffective against the Diadem mobs.

Well probably to prevent those botters and gillselers to run afoul in Diadem and monopolizing the ingredients. If anything they should make it impossible to gather unless you clear the entire island lol. Thus all gatherers will be forced to clear an entire island - or work together with "fight only group" to clear it for them. While the gatherers can then gather stuffs, and maybe spawn higher tier mobs for the "Fight Only" group to kill. Thus both group need each other and work together. Right now, once the goal is cleared, its everyone to do their own shit and see you later butter face!

[AskaRay]

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That's like saying "start a separate DF queue for people who only want to ever watch cutscenes" or "start a separate DF queue for people below a certain (arbitrary) skill level". It's unnecessary.
If you're active when your PF on your server is dead and you really, really want to use it, then either log in at a different time or research different servers. My PF on my server is also dead every time I log in; for my gatherer run I'll have to log in a few hours earlier to get people to join, which I plan on doing.

Not to mention this is silly to fight about since 1. Gathering spawns monsters and chests too 2. You can beat almost anything with 6 or 7 people, except for tier V and the NM (which I bet even gatherers will come and help to kill if you let them know) 3. It doesn't matter what you do in DF since it's completely random. Even if the system got together 8 people who didn't even have gatherers unlocked, two or three are going to leave immediately after completing objectives and getting their daily esoteric prize. (Honestly maybe they should just completely remove the esoterics.) Then of course you won't be able to get credit for anything (that matters, like the NM), not enough DPS.

[Luvbunny]

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Like I said, it is a cluster chuck of hot tranny mess right now. It is everyone for themselves in the Duty Finder. So if you happen to be those people who log in at odd hours, or the FC not big enough to do full exploration, or many other reasons. Those players are out of luck!! There are many kind of duty finders, why not creating one solely for people who WANT to gathers. They can clear their objectives, most mobs are easy prey, and then go back gathering. Even if a couple of them leaves, it does not matter, once objectives are clear, we can gather to our heart contents. I am not opposing gatherer, I just want a Diadem solely for the gatherers and not clumping everyone together.

[Brannigan]

Do rank I mobs drop bronze chests every kill? Could be a fast way to farm up brass coins if you don't care about 210 drops. Hard mode is full of huge HP sponges.

[AskaRay]

Do rank I mobs drop bronze chests every kill? Could be a fast way to farm up brass coins if you don't care about 210 drops. Hard mode is full of huge HP sponges.

As far as I've seen yes they do.

[CGMidlander]

Well probably to prevent those botters and gillselers to run afoul in Diadem and monopolizing the ingredients. If anything they should make it impossible to gather unless you clear the entire island lol. Thus all gatherers will be forced to clear an entire island - or work together with "fight only group" to clear it for them. While the gatherers can then gather stuffs, and maybe spawn higher tier mobs for the "Fight Only" group to kill. Thus both group need each other and work together. Right now, once the goal is cleared, its everyone to do their own shit and see you later butter face!

I'm not sure if you've seen botters move around before, but they teleport inside objects/landscape. I don't think regular routes of aggro are a problem for them.

[Luvbunny]

Chest drop is random, you could get silver chest from rank 1 and 2. Yes for brass coins farm, just do diadem easy. But Diadem normal gives you more option - to farm easy to kill mobs, and also join the rank 5 and star mobs when they spawn. Better chance for gears, and also farm. Just not great when half your teammates want to gather only..