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  1. #31
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    NewDefect's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Lieutenant Divine
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    People seem to have a hard time understanding what party finder is for.
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    Discussion is for the wise and the helpless, and I am neither.

  2. #32
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    The_Greatest_Evil's Avatar
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    Thief Senpai
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 54
    We need easy mode on everything. For the casual players !
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  3. #33
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    CyrilLucifer's Avatar
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    Holy Emmerololth
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    Uh do you not like gatherers for some reason?
    Half the time people don't even say anything... one line of "hey can you help me kill this monster?" and I'll stop gathering and help out. Don't assume everyone wants to kill all the monsters all the time.
    This sounds nice on paper, but in practice, my experience with this, without exception, is as follows:

    The Gatherers are halfway across the map, so by the time they actually reach the mob, it's half dead. They just come so that they can lot any 210s that drop and not look rude doing so and because they don't want to actually do the harder, in the more annoying sense of harder, work (killing trash so you can pop NMs) while still reaping the rewards of it.

    Which you are essentially admitting to in your post, at least, by saying you're not interested in killing anything but the NMs.
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    Last edited by CyrilLucifer; 02-03-2016 at 09:26 AM.

  4. #34
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    SnugglesD's Avatar
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    Snuggles Doombringer
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by NewDefect View Post
    People seem to have a hard time understanding what party finder is for.
    I think they're just too terrified of having to click a button to initiate an instance. If they don't see a PF to join, theyll never touch it. Heaven forbid they create their own PF and have to initiate something! Much better to go to the forums and complain about DF being a random grab bag and beg for the devs to cater solely to them than solve their own problems.
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  5. #35
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Is there any reason? Of course there bloody well is. Level 60, highly geared players do not, despite common belief on this forum, represent the entire player base, and it's not even remotely close. Such content is for players working their way up.

    I'll never understand the conciet of those who've farmed the crap out of something and then turn around and ask why it's there.
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  6. #36
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    Flo Fyloord
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    If diadem actually encouraged a collaboration between combat and gathering, we'd be getting somewhere. As of right now though, the nodes are out in the open that you don't really need an escort, nor do combat classes have any reason to assist gatherers outside of FC collaboration for crafts.
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  7. #37
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    Nektulos-Tuor's Avatar
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    Diadem = Loot pinata, wack mob till it dies and loot comes out.
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  8. #38
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Character
    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    Simple fix: Make it so NO gathering nodes spawn until everything on that island is dead. I think that could choke bots for a while.
    Nice idea, with a 5 minute respawn timer for every killed enemy

    How I see it:
    easy = to farm fast tokens for materia (needed in 3.2)
    normal = to farm gear (have to see what ilevel will drop in 3.2)
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  9. #39
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    RyuSaarva's Avatar
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    Ryu Saarva
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Nice idea, with a 5 minute respawn timer for every killed enemy

    How I see it:
    easy = to farm fast tokens for materia (needed in 3.2)
    normal = to farm gear (have to see what ilevel will drop in 3.2)
    I have never spiritboned anything in diadem since you can't get grade 5 crafting/gathering materia anyway. but do the weakest diadem enemies give the same amount of spiritbond as the strongest?

    Getting materia with tokens is way too slow.
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  10. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    With how long things take to kill and the respawn rate of monsters, you'll never be able to clear islands..
    they should also make it so that mobs don't respawn until someone gathers a respawn item.
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