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  1. #1
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    PotatoTree's Avatar
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    Momoko Tomoko
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    Sargatanas
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    Miner Lv 100

    I love the minion thing, but this tournament is not OK

    I love the whole minion battle thing, but the tournament scoring is horrible. Look at the scoreboard here:



    Momoko is my main, Popoto is my alt. My main has like 1700+ RP now. My alt has like 0 RP and has done 0 ranked matches other than the 6 tournament matches.

    I started using my alt to test out what the scoring system was doing, as my main was getting 1 point per match. 1 friggin point. My alt is like 200 points ahead of my main at only 6 matches. So whenever I fight a tournament match on my main, I'm wasting 1 out of my 30 matches on 1 point.

    So what was the point of the RP matches at all? Do they want us to just tank our RP points by losing a lot before a tournament? Do you even lose points for losing? Cause I can't even catch up in points on my main at all.

    I know first place doesn't matter much (other than for the MGP prize. You only need 10 match wins in 4 tournaments to get the minion) but I play because I find winning fun. This scoring system is absolutely unfair. It's going to be like TT where it's impossible to find a match with anyone and the only way to play is to win trade.
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    Last edited by PotatoTree; 11-15-2015 at 08:36 AM.
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  2. #2
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    Raido Wendolia
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    If they use the ELO system, it's "normal". As you have a lot of points, winning against people with low RP will award you less. However, what's not normal is their matchmaking. We should always be matched with someone with RP close to ours. And I know how it works because I actually coded a tournament system based on ELO points for a mobile game, a while ago ^^' We didn't have this kind of "unfairness".
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  3. #3
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    Miner Lv 100
    It seems like there is no matchmaking going on at all. At 1.7k points I get insta-pop queues against people with 0-100 points. They should have also made it cross server, as I think only a few people per server will be over 1k RP.
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  4. #4
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    Raido Wendolia
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    Yeah, I agree. I was matched with a guy with 1k+ with my poor 50 points. And then twice with a guy with 300~ -_-
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    Mika Ito
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    Archer Lv 80
    Great im so glad i played the content before the tournament now i can't win (also pre emptive rip new wolves den since they said this was the matchmaking system they were gonna use for it)
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    Myon Miya
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    Tonberry
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    Viper Lv 100
    You seem to still gain and lose RP when you do tournament matches, so I guess what they were thinking is eventually, even if you *only* do tournament matches, after a couple of months you'll reach your intended RP level and your alt will be in the same position as your main.

    That said I suppose you could then go into RP battles and deliberately tank your rating back to zero in-between tournaments, which would solve that.

    I'm really not seeing the upside with their current tournament system.
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  7. #7
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    Yea there is really no stopping someone from forfeiting RP matches before a tournament. Maybe they're hoping that people won't do it (or do it the first few weeks but then get bored and stop) because there really isn't much of an incentive to win 1st place.

    They do need to fix the matchmaking though, I can't risk queuing for a tournament when a lot of people are around because I might get someone low on points and "waste" one of my 30 matches.
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